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Old August 2 2012, 09:08 PM   #91
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Re: Farscape or Babylon 5?

Perhaps you would like to spoiler code some of that? You're free to your opinion, of course, but it seems rather thoughtless to describe in some detail the endgame of a series that the original poster has not seen.
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Old August 2 2012, 09:10 PM   #92
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Re: Farscape or Babylon 5?

@stj, though much of your post is snippets, that may not be easily followed by someone unfamiliar with the Series, there's an awful lot of spoilers in there, you should consider "spoilering" most of the first half of your post, as the OP makes clear he hasn't watched either series all the way through yet.
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Old August 2 2012, 09:14 PM   #93
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Re: Farscape or Babylon 5?

Despite having seen next to nothing of Farscape I'm quite comfortable fully recommending Babylon 5.
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Old August 2 2012, 09:48 PM   #94
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Old August 2 2012, 10:14 PM   #95
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Re: Farscape or Babylon 5?

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Neither. I thought Farscape was junk, and B5 flawed and badly acted for the most part.

I'd pick B5 if I had to...
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You know Greg, just sometimes I'll post not because I'm making a considered statement, but because I'm in a bit of a snarky or offhand mood and then I'll regret it. I didn't exactly advance the discussion much did I ?

I didn't watch Farscape so it may not be 'junk'. The lack of Space Opera on TV bothers me and seeing the show listed I tried a couple of episodes. I really couldn't get into it - it may have been brilliant - I'll never know. I had a similar experience with Andromeda (but sat through a LOT more episodes).

B5 I watched religiously - I am still impressed with what JMS achieved overall. The logistics, the amount written by him, the long arc, the adult approach and how much of the money actually made it to the screen.

However, with the exceptions of Anreas Katsulas, Peter Jurasik and Stephen Furst, I have to say it had one of the most inept main casts I have ever seen (Bruce Boxleitner was meant to be an improvement ? Tracy Scoggins ?). The big arcs owed much to Lord Of The Rings and many government conspiracy takeover stories and (no fault of JMS) the rushed resolution followed by commissioning another season did it no favours. Having said that, he did botch it - the Earthdome arc should have been resolved first and the Shadow arc should have closed the season, allowing it more room.

B5 was interesting, should probably have been more impotant and deserved a little more respect from me. Especially as a friend co-wrote the security manual.

Please disregard my earlier post.
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Old August 2 2012, 11:08 PM   #96
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Old August 3 2012, 02:21 AM   #97
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Neither. I thought Farscape was junk, and B5 flawed and badly acted for the most part.

I'd pick B5 if I had to...
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You know Greg, just sometimes I'll post not because I'm making a considered statement, but because I'm in a bit of a snarky or offhand mood and then I'll regret it. I didn't exactly advance the discussion much did I
Well, I'll admit to a bit of snark there myself, but your original post did seem like a bit of drive-by!
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Old August 3 2012, 05:00 AM   #98
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Also, Farscape rocks.
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Old August 3 2012, 12:41 PM   #99
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Old August 3 2012, 03:30 PM   #100
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Old August 3 2012, 04:29 PM   #101
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I had forgotten. Some of the wilder plot twists have fallen right out of my head!
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Old August 3 2012, 04:40 PM   #102
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Old August 3 2012, 07:17 PM   #103
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As most people on here currently debating what sounds like a fairly major plot point of Farscape with no end in sight, I think it's fairly obvious that the OP should choose B5.
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Old August 3 2012, 07:27 PM   #104
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As most people on here currently debating what sounds like a fairly major plot point of Farscape with no end in sight, I think it's fairly obvious that the OP should choose B5.
I don't know. That depends on how much plot matters to you. There's also character, setting, mood, humor, visuals, music, dialogue . . . .

If plot was all that mattered, then reading a synopsis would be the same as watching the show!
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Old August 3 2012, 10:22 PM   #105
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^^^Correct. I value coherent plots and themes a lot, but the first time around the very original visuals and music and the Crichtonisms, and most of all, the shameless gusto in the series still made it an enthralling experience. I was shocked at how unwatchable I found it the second time. I didn't expect that at all. If you read the last coded plot point recapped, you'll see what I mean by plotting problems. But that sort of thing sure makes a strong first impression. It's just when you start to think about it...

As to the popularity of the Earth episode, it didn't get any praise on any of the bbs I looked at when it first aired. The sources cited probably give a better picture of its real popularity beyond the self selected sample of contemporaneous posters.
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