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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old September 7 2012, 02:20 PM   #76
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Re: Star Trek V's canon status

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It's not like these were hard to find, though.
Exactly.


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Yet the Enterprise itself didn't get one until the alternate ending of Nemesis.
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Old September 7 2012, 02:30 PM   #77
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Yet the Enterprise itself didn't get one until the alternate ending of Nemesis.
Actually, seatbelts were featured in an episode of TAS ("Once Upon a Planet") and thigh restraints in ST:TMP.


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Old September 7 2012, 05:05 PM   #78
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Re: Star Trek V's canon status

Bashir: Were any of the Trek films canon?

Garak: My dear doctor, they're all canon.

Bashir: Even Star Trek V?

Garak: Especially Star Trek V.
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Old September 8 2012, 01:41 PM   #79
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It's funny how it's supposed to be non-canon just because most of the people don't like it.

I like it.
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Old September 8 2012, 01:52 PM   #80
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It's funny how it's supposed to be non-canon just because most of the people don't like it.
No, parts of ST V were considered by Gene Roddenberry to be "apocryphal". Supposedly he did not care for the the suggestions that Spock had a half brother and that McCoy once killed his own father.

The movie has always been "canonical".
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Old September 8 2012, 02:50 PM   #81
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As I've said before, any long-running canon can and will disregard details of past stories, or even entire stories, if they're so seriously flawed that nobody wants to be beholden to them.
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Old September 10 2012, 05:28 AM   #82
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Bashir: Were any of the Trek films canon?

Garak: My dear doctor, they're all canon.

Bashir: Even Star Trek V?

Garak: Especially Star Trek V.

Why do I find this so hilarious?
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Old September 10 2012, 03:23 PM   #83
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It's funny how it's supposed to be non-canon just because most of the people don't like it.
No, parts of ST V were considered by Gene Roddenberry to be "apocryphal". Supposedly he did not care for the the suggestions that Spock had a half brother and that McCoy once killed his own father.

The movie has always been "canonical".

Didn't he also dislike the idea that all these alien cultures would have some kind of "Eden myth" involving a literal God on a planet somewhere?
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Old September 10 2012, 03:34 PM   #84
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Yet the Enterprise itself didn't get one until the alternate ending of Nemesis.
Actually, seatbelts were featured in an episode of TAS ("Once Upon a Planet") and thigh restraints in ST:TMP.


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I remember the thigh restraints (not very good against whiplash!) but I must admit, I don't recall seat belts in that TAS episode. I need to rewatch it.
Oh, but I DO remember seatbelts in the shuttle Kirk and McCoy take to Starfleet Academy in the last movie!

Got to wonder why all subsequent Starfleet ships don't still have them. And fuses in their consoles.
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Old September 10 2012, 03:39 PM   #85
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There were seatbelts in shuttles - TNG: Power Play I think, it's the one where Troi, O'Brien and Data get possessed anyway.
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Old September 10 2012, 03:44 PM   #86
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As for the travel time, there are only four near-consecutive lines in the entire film that reference "the center of the galaxy" at all, so all you have to do is ignore maybe 20-30 seconds of the film and the rest works okay.
I like to think that they used some sort of conduit that allowed them to get to the center faster.
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Didn't he also dislike the idea that all these alien cultures would have some kind of "Eden myth" involving a literal God on a planet somewhere?
Not that I know of. Several TOS and TAS episodes explored aspects the Eden myth. When I was reading the Blish novelizations in 1980, before having seen many TOS episodes, I was really surprised how often there were references to Eden, Paradise, gods being shunned, etc.

Shatner was excited that "searching for God" was a great TV Guide episode listing. GR's comment about "searching for God" on a planet was something like "What happens when you find him?"
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Old September 11 2012, 11:58 AM   #88
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If you're James T. Kirk, the answer is "bed him"
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Old September 11 2012, 04:00 PM   #89
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Didn't he also dislike the idea that all these alien cultures would have some kind of "Eden myth" involving a literal God on a planet somewhere?
Not that I know of. Several TOS and TAS episodes explored aspects the Eden myth. When I was reading the Blish novelizations in 1980, before having seen many TOS episodes, I was really surprised how often there were references to Eden, Paradise, gods being shunned, etc.

Shatner was excited that "searching for God" was a great TV Guide episode listing. GR's comment about "searching for God" on a planet was something like "What happens when you find him?"

hmmm, ok. I thought I remembered some comment by him about how absurd it is that all these various alien cultures have the same concept of a monotheistic, personal God and an Eden myth of some kind. Maybe it was another person I was thinking of.
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If you're James T. Kirk, the answer is "bed him"
We just need Bill Clinton in Family Guy mode to join them
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