NFL 2012 - Drive to Glory

[Starbreaker]

No way the replacement refs are working Sunday after this debacle.

[InklingStar]

What a game, what an ending. Both the Packers and the Seahawks were on the receiving end of some lousy calls. Golden Tate's catch in the endzone was legit, since the tie goes to the receiver. He did get away with a pushoff beforehand though. I'll take it.

[Yoda]

^Look I'm sure you're glad the Seahawks won and all. But either learn the rules or don't tell outright ridiculous lies. That was not simultaneous possession, if there was 'dual possession' it was after the fact and thus defense ball.

[InklingStar]

Yoda wrote:

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^Look I'm sure you're glad the Seahawks won and all. But either learn the rules or don't tell outright ridiculous lies. That was not simultaneous possession, if there was 'dual possession' it was after the fact and thus defense ball.

Chill, man.

When they hit the ground, both players had possession of the ball. The call was made on the field, and it was reviewed a second time. The Packers' defense failed spectacularly on the play. They should have batted the ball away instead of going for a meaningless interception that was vulnerable to an ambiguous call.

[1001001]

InklingStar wrote:

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What a game, what an ending. Both the Packers and the Seahawks were on the receiving end of some lousy calls. Golden Tate's catch in the endzone was legit, since the tie goes to the receiver. He did get away with a pushoff beforehand though. I'll take it.

What???


That was an abomination.

That was an interception, plain as day.


And yeah, even it was by some miracle "simultanous", Tate shoved that Seahawk defender to the ground! How is that not offensive pass interference?


And even if you don't buy either of those arguments, what about that crappy PI call against Green Bay? The Seahawk had both hands wrapped around the guy (clearly shown on replay), and Green Bay gets flagged? And what was it, 1st and 30 or something crazy like that?


They have to do something about this officials situation. Seriously.

[InklingStar]

Yeah, Tate got away with a pushoff. I'm not concerned with the pass interference call though, even though it was pretty bogus. The Packers benefited from a bogus PI call on their touchdown drive too, so I figure they balanced out.

[1001001]

InklingStar wrote:

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Yeah, Tate got away with a pushoff. I'm not concerned with the pass interference call though, even though it was pretty bogus. The Packers benefited from a bogus PI call on their touchdown drive too, so I figure they balanced out.

The whole game was, as my daughter would say, ridonkulous.

[Skywalker]

That was an absolutely atrocious ending to an absolutely atrocious weekend of football. The NFL needs to bring back the regular officials immediately. All they're doing now is damaging their own brand.

[IndyJones]

InklingStar wrote:

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What a game, what an ending. Both the Packers and the Seahawks were on the receiving end of some lousy calls. Golden Tate's catch in the endzone was legit, since the tie goes to the receiver.

Um, no.

Here's the rule:

NFL Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3

If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both players retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an
opponent subsequently gains joint control.

Jennings caught the ball two handed and pulled it to his chest. Tate had one arm in there initially, and a second after they fell to the ground. The only person I've seen call that a simultaneous catch tonight is the replacement ref. Now, obviously his was the only vote that mattered...but it *was* wrong.



You'll notice in the second photo that Tate's basically just hugging Jennings. It's very sweet, but it's not like any touchdown I've seen.

[SmoothieX]

Unlike last night, I got no dog in this fight, other than the fact that I love the Seahawks' lime green shoes.

I thought it was a pick, but there was no way to reasonably overturn it.

[InklingStar]

IndyJones wrote:

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Jennings caught the ball two handed and pulled it to his chest. Tate had one arm in there initially, and a second after they fell to the ground. The only person I've seen call that a simultaneous catch tonight is the replacement ref. Now, obviously his was the only vote that mattered...but it *was* wrong.

Tate had both hands on the ball initially. He let go briefly while they were both in the air and then had his hand on the ball again when they fell to the ground. I can see the call being open to interpretation in this case.

If the losers tonight were someone besides the well-loved Packers, I think there would be a lot less butthurt on the internet tonight.

[Yoda]

Oh cool I didn't realize Roger Goodell was a member here.

[InklingStar]

Whether the call was right or not, two things are true:

The replacement refs have got to go.

An intense gritty game by both teams is overshadowed by a questionable call.

[IndyJones]

InklingStar wrote:

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Tate had both hands on the ball initially. He let go briefly while they were both in the air and then had his hand on the ball again when they fell to the ground. I can see the call being open to interpretation in this case.

I don't mean to fight with you, but can you show me a picture or video where Tate gets two hand on the ball at the same time as Jennings, because the the first photo I put in my last post looks to be pretty early in the sequence (what with they're being pretty high off the ground, and all) and it's clear that Jennings has a better handle on it. The second picture shows Jennings has two hands on it, and it's pressed to his chest, where is Tate's control that you're talking about?

[Caligula]

I was rooting for the Seahawks to pull the upset, but that was an awesomely bad call. I feel bad for Green Bay. Even if it had been New England, Pittsburgh or Dallas (the three teams I always root against) on the losing end, I STILL would have felt bad.