STAR TREK BADLANDS

timothy · March 28 2011, 03:22 AM

susan wright's duolgy is it worth reading ?

shanejayell · March 28 2011, 04:52 AM

I didn't really like it, honestly. It was very predictable, and because each chapter was a flashback, there was no feeling of jeopardy in the emergencies they were dealing with.

timothy · March 28 2011, 05:03 AM

is this the same author who did dark pasions dulolgy ?

shanejayell · March 28 2011, 05:05 AM

I didn't read Dark Passions, so I dunno.

(The title 'Dark Passions' amuses me. It sounds like a soap opera.)

Dancing Doctor · March 28 2011, 07:06 AM

Yes, Susan Wright is the one who also wrote the Dark Passions duology (which, in my opinion, deserves a follow-up. I really enjoyed those two books).

And I thought the Badlands duology was okay. I do agree with shanejayell about the predictability and lack of jeopardy.

T'Ressa Dax · March 29 2011, 08:30 PM

It's been so long that I barely remember. I think they were okay.

ProwlAlpha · March 29 2011, 09:26 PM

I thought Badlands was terrible and Dark Passions was okay due to the lesbianism.

Turbo · March 31 2011, 03:15 AM

I actually liked Badlands. For once, a generation-spanning story actually had a good method of tying TOS to the modern series. The TNG segment was rather weak, though, and the VOY segment would have been better if it had just focused on the Maquis. The TOS and DS9 segments were both pretty good.

Janos · February 27 2013, 03:11 AM

When does the DS9 component happen? Before the end of the TV series?

I believe the Voyager one is pre-TV series.

TNG & TOS components happens when?

Is this duology as reviled as the last few posts?

James T. Vader · February 27 2013, 05:43 AM

I started reading it, Kirk was in Sickbay and TOUCHED HIS COMBADGE. I was done. If you are that clumsy i don't want to keep going

TJ Sinclair · February 27 2013, 08:38 AM

^Yeah, that's a typical error of Susan Wright's work, honestly. Beyond those kinds of lack-of-attention-to-detail issues, her plots are generally weak, her characters wooden, and her prose is mind-numbingly bland at best and completely asinine at worst.

Nothing she's ever written is worth reading. I gave it several tries, including her Voyager novel Violations, the TOS Gateways book One Small Step and Starfleet Academy: The Best and the Brightest, and yes, The Badlands. Every single one of them is a complete and utter nightmare. She's, IMO, the worst Trek novelist in history.

bfollowell · February 27 2013, 09:59 AM

I've never read any of her work other than the Dark Passions duology, but that was more than enough for me. To me, it was some of the worst TrekLit that I've ever read. When I look at some of the other non-Trek novels that she's written, I have to ask myself, who the heck thought she might be a good fit for TrekLit?!

Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.

- Byron

James T. Vader · February 27 2013, 02:17 PM

bfollowell wrote:

I've never read any of her work other than the Dark Passions duology, but that was more than enough for me. To me, it was some of the worst TrekLit that I've ever read. When I look at some of the other non-Trek novels that she's written, I have to ask myself, who the heck thought she might be a good fit for TrekLit?!

Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.

- Byron

You mean, "Hi I'km Susan WRight and I"m Bi-Sexual, therefore EVERY FEMALE IN THIS BOOK WILL BE TOO?"

Those books were the worst.

Christopher · February 27 2013, 03:06 PM

Janos wrote:

When does the DS9 component happen? Before the end of the TV series?

Fifth season, shortly before "In Purgatory's Shadow" (i.e. the time when Bashir had been replaced by a Changeling).

I believe the Voyager one is pre-TV series.

Right. Both it and the VGR installment of the similar The Brave and the Bold crossover duology are crammed into the brief period between Janeway getting command of Voyager and the ship getting lost in the Badlands. (I believe the B&tB one is chronologically first.)

TNG & TOS components happens when?

As far as I recall or can determine, the TOS installment is your typical late-5-year-mission setting, while the TNG is sometime in the 5th season of that show, about three years before the VGR portion and five years before the DS9 portion.

Csalem · February 27 2013, 05:41 PM

These were one of the earliest Trek books I bought and enjoyed them at the time but now all I can remember about the TNG portion was Riker being shaved by Deanna...

March 28 2011, 03:22 AM	#1
timothy Rear Admiral Location: born to be a trekie	STAR TREK BADLANDS susan wright's duolgy is it worth reading ?

March 28 2011, 04:52 AM	#2
shanejayell Captain Location: BC, Canada	Re: STAR TREK BADLANDS I didn't really like it, honestly. It was very predictable, and because each chapter was a flashback, there was no feeling of jeopardy in the emergencies they were dealing with. __________________ Avatar: Priss Asagiri, Bubblegum Crisis

March 28 2011, 05:03 AM	#3
timothy Rear Admiral Location: born to be a trekie	Re: STAR TREK BADLANDS is this the same author who did dark pasions dulolgy ?

March 28 2011, 05:05 AM	#4
shanejayell Captain Location: BC, Canada	Re: STAR TREK BADLANDS I didn't read Dark Passions, so I dunno. (The title 'Dark Passions' amuses me. It sounds like a soap opera.) __________________ Avatar: Priss Asagiri, Bubblegum Crisis

March 28 2011, 07:06 AM	#5
Dancing Doctor Admiral Location: At the Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound	Re: STAR TREK BADLANDS Yes, Susan Wright is the one who also wrote the Dark Passions duology (which, in my opinion, deserves a follow-up. I really enjoyed those two books). And I thought the Badlands duology was okay. I do agree with shanejayell about the predictability and lack of jeopardy. __________________ ‎"Captain, we are being hailed. That is, if you don't mind...if it isn't too intrusive." Loyal member of the Militant Janeway True Path Devotees

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March 29 2011, 08:30 PM	#6
T'Ressa Dax Commander Location: Kendra Province, Bajor	Re: STAR TREK BADLANDS It's been so long that I barely remember. I think they were okay. __________________ I don't like bullies, I don't like threats, and I don't like you! - Janeway, "State of Flux"

March 29 2011, 09:26 PM	#7
ProwlAlpha Fleet Captain Location: Florrum	Re: STAR TREK BADLANDS I thought Badlands was terrible and Dark Passions was okay due to the lesbianism. __________________ "As my sweet mother always said, 'son, if one hostage is good, two are better, and three, well, that's just good business!'"

March 31 2011, 03:15 AM	#8
Turbo Vice Admiral Location: Atlanta	Re: STAR TREK BADLANDS I actually liked Badlands. For once, a generation-spanning story actually had a good method of tying TOS to the modern series. The TNG segment was rather weak, though, and the VOY segment would have been better if it had just focused on the Maquis. The TOS and DS9 segments were both pretty good. __________________ Odo: Your faith seems to have led you to something of a contradiction. Kira: I don't see it as a contradiction. Odo: I don't understand. Kira: That's the thing about faith. If you don't have it, you can't understand it and if you do, no explanation is necessary.

February 27 2013, 03:11 AM	#9
Janos Commander Location: Vanishing Point	Re: STAR TREK BADLANDS When does the DS9 component happen? Before the end of the TV series? I believe the Voyager one is pre-TV series. TNG & TOS components happens when? Is this duology as reviled as the last few posts? __________________ Cheers, John (Janos) Babos Comics Nexus contributor & editor Star Trek: New Frontier, DS9 relaunch & DTI lit fan

February 27 2013, 05:43 AM	#10
James T. Vader Lieutenant	Re: STAR TREK BADLANDS I started reading it, Kirk was in Sickbay and TOUCHED HIS COMBADGE. I was done. If you are that clumsy i don't want to keep going

February 27 2013, 08:38 AM	#11
TJ Sinclair Captain Location: There and back again...	Re: STAR TREK BADLANDS ^Yeah, that's a typical error of Susan Wright's work, honestly. Beyond those kinds of lack-of-attention-to-detail issues, her plots are generally weak, her characters wooden, and her prose is mind-numbingly bland at best and completely asinine at worst. Nothing she's ever written is worth reading. I gave it several tries, including her Voyager novel Violations, the TOS Gateways book One Small Step and Starfleet Academy: The Best and the Brightest, and yes, The Badlands. Every single one of them is a complete and utter nightmare. She's, IMO, the worst Trek novelist in history. __________________ "Social harmony is not a good goal. There's plenty of social harmony in a prison camp. The individual is the smallest and most oppressed minority..." -- Diane Carey, April 2001

February 27 2013, 09:59 AM	#12
bfollowell Commander Location: Evansville, IN, USA	Re: STAR TREK BADLANDS I've never read any of her work other than the Dark Passions duology, but that was more than enough for me. To me, it was some of the worst TrekLit that I've ever read. When I look at some of the other non-Trek novels that she's written, I have to ask myself, who the heck thought she might be a good fit for TrekLit?! Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary. - Byron __________________ Underachievement - Because soaring with the eagles requires so much more effort.

February 27 2013, 05:41 PM	#15
Csalem Commodore Location: Dublin, Ireland	Re: STAR TREK BADLANDS These were one of the earliest Trek books I bought and enjoyed them at the time but now all I can remember about the TNG portion was Riker being shaved by Deanna... __________________ Csalem