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Old August 23 2012, 04:00 AM   #721
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Has anyone noticed, but during the opening credits, you can see that they actually put the name 'Enterprise' on the neck just below the torpedo launcher and just above the deflector dish. Just freeze the ship when the neck/deflector is the main thing on the screen and you can't miss it.
It's always been there (part of the plans/design for the ship), it's just more readable in HD.
But in the SD it's just been a streak of black/shadow because of th generational loss; even on the DVD's when they are upconverted you can't even read the name.
That just goes to show you the improvement in quality! Maybe we'll be able to see the Enterprise-C's torpedo launchers
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Old August 23 2012, 04:02 AM   #722
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Or the Nebula class's impulse engines?!
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Old August 23 2012, 12:50 PM   #723
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One great thing about Justice is Picard's line "There can be no justice where laws are absolute". Great line.
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Old August 23 2012, 02:06 PM   #724
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Collider has a review up.

the sound quality is impeccable
looks like they didn't listen on a 5.1 or 7.1 surround system.

a disappointment, then, that the set offers no digital copies. In this day and age, with mobile devices playing an increasingly large role in our entertainment, the oversight feels like a company drastically behind the times.
I don't think anyone has really mentioned this yet.
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Old August 23 2012, 02:25 PM   #725
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One great thing about Justice is Picard's line "There can be no justice where laws are absolute". Great line.
Agreed, that's a good one.
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Old August 23 2012, 04:21 PM   #726
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Season One is almost finished. All I've got left is "The Neutral Zone". So far, here are my statistics.

Smartest Character: The Bynars
The way they handled the crises of their planet probably makes them the smartest alien species that has ever dealt with the Federation in Star Trek. There is a disturbing truth in the Bynars' simple reasoning "You would have said no", especially when you look at episodes like Dear Doctor (Archer and crew decide to allow two entire civilizations to die out when they asked for help) and Symbiosis (Picard is willing to let an entire civilization go through withdraw that will no doubt cause an outbreak of violence).

Annoying Character: Wesley Crusher
Take it away SFDebris, "First officer's log. Supplemental. Fu** you Wesley."

Worst Example of an Enlightened Human: Picard
Calls military uniforms "costumes" in a smug manner, hates children, allows a teenage boy who is an inexperience non-starfleet officer to take the ops station on the Federation flagship, will break the prime directive to save Wesley but not an entire civilization, reassures his first officer for not saving a little girl, openly questions the suggestions of his bridge staff when they make very logical suggestions and believes that humans will one day become angels and gods who will be more powerful than the Q.

More to come. TNZ will be a refresher.

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Old August 23 2012, 04:22 PM   #727
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One great thing about Justice is Picard's line "There can be no justice where laws are absolute". Great line.
Agreed, that's a good one.
But he treats the Prime Directive as absolute... in some situations... when it makes the least amount of sense.
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Old August 23 2012, 05:14 PM   #728
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"You would have said no"
I know it's only a single word but it makes a huge difference in the context of your arguement, the line is "You might have said no". And as a Federation member world, I find it hard to believe Starfleet would refuse their request. Anyway, it's a good example of "the needs of the many...", four Bynars sacrifice their liberty for the guaranteed safety of their entire planet.

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One great thing about Justice is Picard's line "There can be no justice where laws are absolute". Great line.
Agreed, that's a good one.
But he treats the Prime Directive as absolute... in some situations... when it makes the least amount of sense.
That's a good observation. He doesn't practice what he preaches when it comes to the law of the Prime Directive.
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Old August 23 2012, 05:19 PM   #729
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Wow, just watched Angel One, and it really is pretty awful.

Other than the weirdness of seeing Bonnie from Knight Rider in an episode of Star Trek, and getting to see Data in charge of the Enterprise for a brief time, there was just nothing redeeming about it whatsoever.

The most baffling part of all is Riker's sudden attraction to the planet's leader. He goes from being completely disgusted with her to being all flirty and lovey dovey with her a couple scenes later. Lol.
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Old August 23 2012, 05:25 PM   #730
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The most baffling part of all is Riker's sudden attraction to the planet's leader. He goes from being completely disgusted with her to being all flirty and lovey dovey with her a couple scenes later. Lol.
The little head started thinking for him.
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Old August 23 2012, 06:08 PM   #731
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I know it's only a single word but it makes a huge difference in the context of your arguement, the line is "You might have said no". And as a Federation member world, I find it hard to believe Starfleet would refuse their request.
It's just a pity that it had to be a "federation world" for us to to say yes at all. Kind of emphasizes the Federation as a "Even if you're whole world is dying, if you're not one of us, you won't be getting any help" kind of society.
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Old August 24 2012, 01:18 AM   #732
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Just watched "Symbiosis". This has got to be one of Picard's biggest blunders. The exchange he has at the end where he states that the Ornarans will go through a tough period of withdraw is just so wrong. Picard doesn't consider what a planet wide drug shortage will do to a civilization, especially one where every person is addicted to the drug.
So you are complaining, that Picard isnt making it easy to continue the supply of the drug, calling him inmoral, but you have not the slightest problem whatsoever wit the fact, that he doesnt tell the Ornarans about their drug addiction and it is in fact not a medicine they are taking?

It seems, you didnt get the point of this episode - or like Roddenberry would say (as Piller once quoted): What the story is all about.
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Old August 24 2012, 07:14 AM   #733
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Watched Symbiosis and Skin of Evil tonight. I really want to talk about Skin of Evil, but the one thing I will say about Symbiosis was I thought Picard was in the right in terms of how the prime directive is suppose to be interpreted.

Anyway, Skin of Evil. This is mostly known as the episode they killed Tasha Yar, but in watching it tonight (And I've been seeing these episodes kind of as if they were new) I couldn't help but think this one really was one of the better episode of the season. It was definitely the highlight of Troi's season. I've always hated Counselor Troi, at least before the movies and Voyager, even though that hate became kind of tolerable when she got the uniform. The reason for this hate is because I thought she was more often than not, useless, or as I like to call her "Queen of the Obvious". However, I really thought Skin of Evil was the episode were the writers finally used her the right way. She wasn't always interrupting the conversation, but really using Armus's psychological well being against him and I thought it was some of Sirtis's best work in the early going. I think we can all agree that "Face of the Enemy" was Troi's best episode (even though I would like to know, what is everyone's favorite Troi episode), but I do think Skin of Evil deserves to be up there, not to mention it's Sirtis actually as Troi instead of a Romulan Tal'Shiar agent.

Also, I really liked the concept of pure evil. TNG really did explore some dark things in the early going, be in the 21st century court of horrors, or blowing someone's head off, but this episode explored the meaning of true evil and I really liked that.

As for the funeral scene, I actually got choked up during that scene. I've really crapped on Denise Crosby in this thread (Again, all that crapping on her will cease if they manage to interview her again for the Season 3 or 5 sets and she explained her change of mind and attitude towards TNG and the franchise as a whole. I just want to hear how someone who seemed to hate her time on the show so much went on to become one of the more pivotal actresses of the franchise in terms of marketing it) but that was a great scene and summarized the characters pretty well.

I only have 3 episodes left, but I'm really liking a lot of season 1. It just feels like the show had a different feel in Season 1 than it did in it's "popular" years and I'm enjoying a lot of the episodes again, even though I have just seen them in the last year on DVD.
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Just watched We'll Always have Paris, and I have one question. Which 2 seconds were unconverted because I couldn't spot it.
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Old August 24 2012, 08:52 AM   #735
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The enhanced visuals and sound are appreciated, but they're not changing my opinion of the episodes themselves. The story, ideas, writing and acting remain the same.
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