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Old August 8 2012, 08:12 PM   #496
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There's really only one unwatchable episode and that's Angel One.
"Angel One" isn't very good, but it's a classic work of drama compared to "Justice."

I also found myself surprised at how good "Symbiosis" was, except for the aforementioned Wesley/Tasha scene, which is embarrassing to watch. It transforms a decent morality play into an after school special before your very eyes.
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Old August 9 2012, 03:26 AM   #497
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Don't get the hate for Tasha's so-called "drug speech."

Everything she says is spot-on.

The writers even had her go out on that limb by actually saying drugs can make you feel good.

I still wonder why people decide to start smoking these days, with everything that's known. When I see someone young smoking, I'm bewildered. Although with a low opinion of humanity, I shouldn't be surprised.

Is it possible those who like to come down on this do so to defend some addiction of their own?
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Old August 9 2012, 03:56 AM   #498
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No one really seems to get the speech at all, its not saying say no to drugs, its less simplistic than that..it's saying they don't understand why they used drugs in previous centuries and the analogy is that such reasons in our time are far less simplistic than people like to make it out to be. I always have to shake my head when people misunderstand the " just say no speech" that never was.

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Old August 9 2012, 03:58 AM   #499
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There's really only one unwatchable episode and that's Angel One.
"Angel One" isn't very good, but it's a classic work of drama compared to "Justice."

I also found myself surprised at how good "Symbiosis" was, except for the aforementioned Wesley/Tasha scene, which is embarrassing to watch. It transforms a decent morality play into an after school special before your very eyes.
I actually like elements of Justice, including the ending, while I have a hard time justifying "Angel One's" existence...
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Old August 9 2012, 08:10 AM   #500
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Skin of Evil is another one I liked a lot more when I was a kid. The basic idea of this creature being the discarded evil of an advanced civilization is a cool one, and I still love that bitter, anguished voice they used for him, but unfortunately he just comes across as way too cartoonish and one-dimensional now.

Marina Sirtis definitely gives one of her best performances though, and the way Troi slowly draws out the truth from Armus is actually pretty well-written and fun to watch.

Kinda bummed the moving oil slick effect wasn't fixed or improved for the blu-ray though. It still looks like just a fake, animated drawing (which I guess it what it probably was). I'm guessing the CBS team just used the original element there and didn't even try to recreate it.

And of course the distinctly green uniform Beverly is wearing in some of the funeral shots is even more apparent in HD now. Lol
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Old August 9 2012, 06:43 PM   #501
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I just watched Justice, it was better than I remember it being. There was too much Wesley in Season 1. That character was so misused, looking back. At the time he really wrecked the show. A highly intelligent and trained crew of a starship depends on a kid, really???


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Old August 9 2012, 06:45 PM   #502
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Don't get the hate for Tasha's so-called "drug speech."

Everything she says is spot-on.

The writers even had her go out on that limb by actually saying drugs can make you feel good.

I still wonder why people decide to start smoking these days, with everything that's known. When I see someone young smoking, I'm bewildered. Although with a low opinion of humanity, I shouldn't be surprised.

Is it possible those who like to come down on this do so to defend some addiction of their own?

and yet in later seasons, they showed addictions to the holodeck. It's sort of like a drug.


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Old August 9 2012, 07:59 PM   #503
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Just watched one of my favorite episodes of the season, "Skin of Evil" (holds up beautifully in HD), and noticed for the first time ever, that the episodes was actually written by Joseph Stefano, who – amoung many other things – also wrote a few of my favortie episodes from the original Outer Limits, like "It Crawled Out of the Woodwork", "The Bellero Shield", "A Feasibility Study" and "The Forms of Things Unknown"! Who would have thought?
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Old August 9 2012, 08:37 PM   #504
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Just watched one of my favorite episodes of the season, "Skin of Evil" (holds up beautifully in HD), and noticed for the first time ever, that the episodes was actually written by Joseph Stefano, who – amoung many other things – also wrote a few of my favortie episodes from the original Outer Limits, like "It Crawled Out of the Woodwork", "The Bellero Shield", "A Feasibility Study" and "The Forms of Things Unknown"! Who would have thought?
And most notably, Psycho. Just think of the possibilities!

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could've been a sort of sequel to Datalore and revealed that Lore had, in fact -- unbeknownst to everyone -- copied a bit of his personality into Data's positronic brain near the end of that episode and that it's been there, buried in his subsystems this whole time. It finally starts manifesting itself and, of course, Data stabs Tasha to death in her sonic shower with a knife-like coil brace!
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Old August 9 2012, 10:28 PM   #505
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I've only got two episodes left now !!! Roll on S2 !!! Happy what I've seen so far I hope they spend some more on effects in future seasons !!! But on overall note im loving the HD ride of TNG.

The opening titles are still mind blowing good !!!!
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Old August 9 2012, 11:45 PM   #506
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I'm a little bit behind on the set, but tonight I watched The Naked Now and Code of Honor. So far, the writing's better than I expected, but every few minutes a godawful line appears and I cringe.

At times during Code of Honor, it felt like a TOS episode, and I think it was mostly down to the score by Fred Steiner (especially at the act breaks). The whole episode seemed like it belonged in the 60's. It was weird to think this ep was made 18 years after TOS finished.

It's also a little weird to think that it's been 18 years since TNG finished. How would a new Trek show look today?
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Old August 9 2012, 11:49 PM   #507
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At times during Code of Honor, it felt like a TOS episode, and I think it was mostly down to the score by Fred Steiner (especially at the act breaks).
Ditto, I half-expected the "Amok Time" theme to play during Tasha and Yarena's fight.
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Old August 9 2012, 11:49 PM   #508
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I've only got two episodes left now !!! Roll on S2 !!! Happy what I've seen so far I hope they spend some more on effects in future seasons !!! But on overall note im loving the HD ride of TNG.

The opening titles are still mind blowing good !!!!
Absolutely! I don't think I could get though Season 1 otherwise.

The VFX are beautiful, but I can't help notice things that were never originally seen, like the small gaps on the hull around the windows, and a rippled section of the saucer where it should be flat. Still pretty though.
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Old August 10 2012, 12:01 AM   #509
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I find myself noticing things and details never intended to be seen that can break the "illusion" of what is being presented. There's a few times someone is leaning against or is close to a bulkhead and you can see the "imperfect" paint job on the wood of the set. (I've seen brush marks/swirls) there's close up of equipment where you can see details not meant to be there (like wood grain in the materials that make up the hyposprays.) Stuff like that. Certainly doesn't "ruin" the show for me my any stretch, just interesting things to now see.
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Old August 10 2012, 12:35 AM   #510
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Yeah some of the props like the "dustbuster" phasers and PADDs don't really hold up so well in HD.
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