TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) - Page 4

Sho · July 26 2012, 04:24 AM

Indeed, once again Thrawn's mighty chart proves useful.

Drago-Kazov · July 26 2012, 04:25 AM

I just wish Mack would write more notes. I loved the Vanguard notes.

Also i want a Kazon on the Titan.

Sho · July 26 2012, 04:38 AM

I like notes as well. I've already prepared for my future Titan reading by writing a little program that combines my already-purchased ebooks with the annotations Christopher has written for his two installments, adding them as endnotes to each chapter and hotlinking a note whenever I can match up a quoted phrase to the text with reasonable confidence using Levenshtein techniques.

Christopher · July 26 2012, 04:40 AM

^I'm not sure that's the best way to go about it. Some of my annotations contain spoilers for things that happen later in the book. I recommend reading them after the book.

Sho · July 26 2012, 04:43 AM

Yeah, I should have added that your website warns against spoilers in annotations

. But even if I read them only after the main text, it's going to be more fun/convenient to be able to flip through the text again looking for hotlinks to click, or for the unlinked notes at least to have then right next to each chapter. I did add hotlinks to the start of each notes section to skip over them to the beginning of the next chapter.

(The EPUB format is really just HTML under the hood, roughly speaking.)

Julio Angel Ortiz · July 26 2012, 04:46 PM

Anxiously awaiting this to drop on my Kindle Fire come Tuesday.

Because, as regulars may know, I loves me some Titan.

MatthiasRussell · July 26 2012, 05:45 PM

Drago-Kazov wrote:

Also i want a Kazon on the Titan.

I want the Krenim to wipe the Kazon out of existence.

Drago-Kazov · July 26 2012, 06:21 PM

Oh come don't hate the poor space gypsies.

Thrawn · July 26 2012, 06:31 PM

The books have done a tremendous job lately of taking stereotypical or one-note alien races from the shows and fleshing them out. I wouldn't mind seeing a novel take on the Kazon. (Novel... do you get it!? HAHA I'm so clever.)

Sho · July 26 2012, 06:32 PM

^ FUTURE WRITER!

Mage · July 26 2012, 07:22 PM

Thrawn wrote:

The books have done a tremendous job lately of taking stereotypical or one-note alien races from the shows and fleshing them out. I wouldn't mind seeing a novel take on the Kazon. (Novel... do you get it!? HAHA I'm so clever.)

I think I'm one of the few people he liked the concept behind the Kazon (the entire streetgang-inspired thing). It wasn't perfectly fleshed out, but I still liked them. So yeah, a novel where the Kazon feature a bit more prominent could be quite nice. Who knows, with Voyager back in the DQ....

Sho · July 26 2012, 07:24 PM

It just wasn't ever really credible that they they're organized enough for spacefaring, but then you have the Pakled ...

Christopher · July 26 2012, 07:34 PM

In the case of the Kazon, it was explained that they stole their starfaring technology from their former rulers/enslavers, the Trabe.

Sho · July 26 2012, 07:35 PM

Yes, I realize they didn't develop the technology, but even keeping it running adequately seems like a tall order.

Drago-Kazov · July 26 2012, 07:45 PM

They probably had Trabe slaves for that, they were just offscreen.

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July 26 2012, 04:24 AM	#46
Sho Fleet Captain Location: Berlin, Germany	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) Indeed, once again Thrawn's mighty chart proves useful. __________________ TrekLit review threads, sorted by average score (discussion thread).

July 26 2012, 04:25 AM	#47
Drago-Kazov Fleet Captain	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) I just wish Mack would write more notes. I loved the Vanguard notes. Also i want a Kazon on the Titan.

July 26 2012, 04:38 AM	#48
Sho Fleet Captain Location: Berlin, Germany	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) I like notes as well. I've already prepared for my future Titan reading by writing a little program that combines my already-purchased ebooks with the annotations Christopher has written for his two installments, adding them as endnotes to each chapter and hotlinking a note whenever I can match up a quoted phrase to the text with reasonable confidence using Levenshtein techniques. __________________ TrekLit review threads, sorted by average score (discussion thread).

July 26 2012, 04:40 AM	#49
Christopher Writer	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) ^I'm not sure that's the best way to go about it. Some of my annotations contain spoilers for things that happen later in the book. I recommend reading them after the book. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Updated 5/28/13 with discussion of Rise of the Federation Book 1. Written Worlds -- My blog

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July 26 2012, 04:43 AM	#50
Sho Fleet Captain Location: Berlin, Germany	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) Yeah, I should have added that your website warns against spoilers in annotations . But even if I read them only after the main text, it's going to be more fun/convenient to be able to flip through the text again looking for hotlinks to click, or for the unlinked notes at least to have then right next to each chapter. I did add hotlinks to the start of each notes section to skip over them to the beginning of the next chapter. (The EPUB format is really just HTML under the hood, roughly speaking.) __________________ TrekLit review threads, sorted by average score (discussion thread).

July 26 2012, 04:46 PM	#51
Julio Angel Ortiz Fleet Captain Location: Pennsylvania, USA	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) Anxiously awaiting this to drop on my Kindle Fire come Tuesday. Because, as regulars may know, I loves me some Titan. __________________ Blog \| Star Trek: Titan Guide

July 26 2012, 06:21 PM	#53
Drago-Kazov Fleet Captain	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) Oh come don't hate the poor space gypsies.

July 26 2012, 06:31 PM	#54
Thrawn Commodore Location: Washington, DC	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) The books have done a tremendous job lately of taking stereotypical or one-note alien races from the shows and fleshing them out. I wouldn't mind seeing a novel take on the Kazon. (Novel... do you get it!? HAHA I'm so clever.) __________________ The Almighty Star Trek Lit-Verse Reading Order Flowchart - be confused no longer about what to read next, or what to read first. 12/5/12: Now brilliantly updated by 8of5!

July 26 2012, 06:32 PM	#55
Sho Fleet Captain Location: Berlin, Germany	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) ^ FUTURE WRITER! __________________ TrekLit review threads, sorted by average score (discussion thread).

July 26 2012, 07:24 PM	#57
Sho Fleet Captain Location: Berlin, Germany	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) It just wasn't ever really credible that they they're organized enough for spacefaring, but then you have the Pakled ... __________________ TrekLit review threads, sorted by average score (discussion thread).

July 26 2012, 07:34 PM	#58
Christopher Writer	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) In the case of the Kazon, it was explained that they stole their starfaring technology from their former rulers/enslavers, the Trabe. __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Updated 5/28/13 with discussion of Rise of the Federation Book 1. Written Worlds -- My blog

July 26 2012, 07:35 PM	#59
Sho Fleet Captain Location: Berlin, Germany	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) Yes, I realize they didn't develop the technology, but even keeping it running adequately seems like a tall order. __________________ TrekLit review threads, sorted by average score (discussion thread).

July 26 2012, 07:45 PM	#60
Drago-Kazov Fleet Captain	Re: TTN: Fallen Gods by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!) They probably had Trabe slaves for that, they were just offscreen.