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Old June 12 2014, 01:16 AM   #496
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Agreed. FSM seems to be on a decidedly anti-Marvel bent lately. It's getting predictable.
It's not lately. If you go to the "Movies that offend you" thread he outright stated weeks if not months ago the entire MCU series 'offended' him.

I don't know what his problem is, but he's been dragging it into literally every MCU thread at this point, attempting to derail all of them, and it's getting rather pathetic.
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Old June 12 2014, 01:23 AM   #497
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You might simplify it, but it's not anti-Marvel. I like Marvel. I have been watching films for 35 years, however, so I think I can spot certain trends and I don't like this current trend Marvel has been riding us down. I want to make my position known.
You've made it known. You've been repeating it page after page. I think we all get your position now.
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Old June 12 2014, 02:18 AM   #498
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You've made it known. You've been repeating it page after page. I think we all get your position now.
I often think the same thing regarding the ad nauseum restatement of complaints about Man of Steel. Physician heal thyself.
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Old June 12 2014, 03:57 AM   #499
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Well, it's driving me out of my Vulcan mind
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Old June 12 2014, 05:06 AM   #500
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Although, if they're rewriting it now with Adam McKay while they film, there was clearly more flexibility than reported.
They gave Wright a deadline that left them enough time to use a fallback options If after however many years he hasn't delivered what they wanted, leaving enough buffer for a fallback if he fails again was the prudent course.
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Old June 12 2014, 07:12 AM   #501
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Old June 12 2014, 08:37 PM   #502
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You've made it known. You've been repeating it page after page. I think we all get your position now.
I often think the same thing regarding the ad nauseum restatement of complaints about Man of Steel. Physician heal thyself.
Is that directed at me?

Because I've been going on and on about MOS? In the past two days I was in the thread about Batman v Superman, but, I hadn't posted anything about MOS in a long time...
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Old June 13 2014, 12:29 AM   #503
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Okay. Here.. I'm going to level with you all... right now


Now, Marvel has proved that you can churn out blockbusters by using the same business model that has to be used when churning out twenty episodes in a season of one hour dramas. They sapped much of the charm and all of the intelligence out of blockbusters.
You do realize that there have been, and currently are, plenty of intelligent, quality TV shows produced under this model?
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Old June 13 2014, 12:30 AM   #504
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Now, Marvel has proved that you can churn out blockbusters by using the same business model that has to be used when churning out twenty episodes in a season of one hour dramas. They sapped much of the charm and all of the intelligence out of blockbusters.
You do realize that there have been, and currently are, plenty of intelligent, quality TV shows produced under this model?
Yes.

I don't mind shows being produced.

You do realize that we are talking about movies.
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Old June 13 2014, 01:53 AM   #505
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Which, lately, have been coming up worse than some of the TV series out there. Especially the serialized one where they maintain the same themes, style, and storytelling throughout their life.

Yanno, kinda like what Marvel is trying to do.
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Old June 13 2014, 06:40 AM   #506
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Yeah I miss it when a few effects in a film were actually special. The moment when Yoda lifts the X-Wing would not amaze some teen kid with a short attention span and a fetish for bright colors and nifty CGI boom boom explosions and bad snarky humor spoken by shallow characters (Feige's target demographic); they wouldn't understand or be amazed by how special that scene is. To me that scene is one of the most "special" scenes in all of science fiction/ fantasy
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Old June 13 2014, 07:11 AM   #507
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Yeah I miss it when a few effects in a film were actually special. The moment when Yoda lifts the X-Wing would not amaze some teen kid with a short attention span and a fetish for bright colors and nifty CGI boom boom explosions and bad snarky humor spoken by shallow characters (Feige's target demographic); they wouldn't understand or be amazed by how special that scene is. To me that scene is one of the most "special" scenes in all of science fiction/ fantasy
It's not the effect. It's the context.
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Old June 13 2014, 07:16 AM   #508
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That's true... absolutly agree with you on that.

But these days, kids are so used to things like that.. so used to people moving stuff around or the laws of physics being broken all the time. Effects are good but somehow I feel they aren't special anymore, and they lack charm.
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Old June 13 2014, 07:21 AM   #509
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That's true... absolutly agree with you on that.

But these days, kids are so used to things like that.. so used to people moving stuff around or the laws of physics being broken all the time. Effects are good but somehow I feel they aren't special anymore, and they lack charm.
You're missing my point. It's not the quality of an effect that has an impact, but the context. And "kids" are still moved by context. There isn't the same wonder on how an effect is done, which I think was the charm 30 years ago.

I would argue it's a good thing. You can't just throw up an effect and expect and ooo and awww. That effect has to mean something in the context of the story.
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Old June 13 2014, 11:38 AM   #510
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Yeah, I agree with that. The effect in itself shouldn't be what matters.

That being said, I don't think we're beyond being wowed by special effects. Go watch Life of Pi. Those effects are breathtaking.
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