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Old June 2 2014, 06:41 AM   #391
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The Wrap is reporting that Rawson Marshall Thurber is the frontrunner to direct Ant-Man.

Edit to add: now AICN is saying that Adam McKay is in final talks to take over as director. He has a history with Paul Rudd, having directed the Anchorman movies.

Edit to add again: and now Adam McKay is out. From The Hollywood Reporter:

Scratch Adam McKay off the list of replacements for Ant-Man helmer Edgar Wright.

Negotiations began with McKay in earnest on Friday but the Anchorman director abruptly decided against taking the job on the film, The Hollywood Reporter has learned. The decision is said to be his alone.
Adam McKay tweeted this:
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And yes, met w/Marvel. Kirby & Lee r my Lennon Mccartney so it was awesome. But have other projects I'm committed to. Not sure it can work.
He doesnt exactly say that he is out. Just not sure if he can move his other projects.
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Old June 2 2014, 07:00 AM   #392
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That tweet is probably just putting out a diplomatic reason for why he passed. From Variety on Saturday:

It looks like Adam McKay is no longer interested in replacing Edgar Wright as the director of Marvel’s “Ant-Man,” sources confirm to Variety.

The “Anchorman” helmer has suddenly pulled out of negotiations to step in for Wright. He was in advanced talks to take on the movie just yesterday.
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Old June 2 2014, 10:04 AM   #393
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New director ready to sign on?



I guess Marvel was just doing some damage control!
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Old June 2 2014, 05:27 PM   #394
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I grew up on big, dumb action movies so I absolutely loved Hot Fuzz.
Same here. I love that movie.
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Old June 2 2014, 11:11 PM   #395
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I grew up on big, dumb action movies so I absolutely loved Hot Fuzz.
Same here. I love that movie.
Hot Fuzz is a gem.

Sad to hear Edgar Wright's off this picture. My enthusiasm for the film dropped considerably when I heard he left the project, but now with McKay passing... I'm starting to worry Ant-Man is going to be a total rush job in order to meet a deadline for its script to fit into the Marvel Cinematic Mosaic.

Marvel's track record thus far has to be considered, and I'm holding judgment until we can see it... but my expectations have bottomed out considerably on a film I was really looking forward to.
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Old June 3 2014, 06:07 PM   #396
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I'm really surprised its taking them this long to find a replacement.
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Old June 3 2014, 06:49 PM   #397
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This is actually pretty simple.

There has always been a huge difference between the production of television shows (one hour dramas with interlocking or continuing stories) than with movies.

I might argue that Mike Vejar is the greatest Star Trek director ever but most people would say who? Just look at the episodes he's done and my case is made for me.

But the difference is that this is television, and directors on television are hired guns, and have much more limited creative impact on how it turns out (though they do have some, and you can see just how distinct and professional Vejar's style is) because most of the actual creative decisions are left to the writers, and moreso, the producers, who are also looking ahead to future seasons as well as the bottom line. Vejar and other directors like him only get paid to deal with the task at hand. That's why Spielberg would have never direct an episode of Deep Space Nine even if we found out he loved the show.

So.. with Marvel Studios using the television model, with them treating their MCU as basically a serialized set of films and it's really Disney and Feighy who make all the decisions, it's no wonder at all that directors who care about their own merits as filmmakers are not willing (any longer) to work on these films. This trend will continue.

Sure, some big A-List directors did work on Marvel films.. after all, this was all kind of new and exciting, but now they are starting to see that it is not their films. The thing about movies is that, up until now, most films that come out are not considered the producer's films, or even the studios films (despite the fact that the studios own them), thy are respectfully considered the director's films: hence when we see "A Steven Spielberg Film" when he directs a picture, not when he merely produces it.

Who ever ends up directing Ant-Man has to know that, despite any lip service they might see in the credits, it's not going to be his or her film, it's going to be Disney's... and Feighy's. Feighy is pissing on the legs of the directors of his franchise without even the courtesy of calling it rain.

I mean, you can't set up a deadline ahead of time, even a logo, hire a director, have that director leave, try to get a new director to join in, have that fail, keep the same deadline for the film's release, and then call it the person's film of whoever does end up directing it.

What a joke. I'm glad you guys are figuring it out.
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Old June 3 2014, 06:51 PM   #398
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McKay didn't take the job because it wasn't the Wright thing to do.


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Old June 3 2014, 09:07 PM   #399
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I'm actually more interested in the Ant Man movie now that Wright is being replaced. I really wouldn't want to see an Ant Man that isn't like the Ant Man from the comics, in as much as the other Avengers are like their respective selves.
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Old June 3 2014, 10:08 PM   #400
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I know they still have some time before this has to go before cameras but it was silly of them to state in the release that they had a director as Wright was leaving when clearly they didn't. They had a short list and it seems that list is now all but exhausted.

What next?
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Old June 3 2014, 10:37 PM   #401
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I mean, you can't set up a deadline ahead of time, even a logo, hire a director, have that director leave, try to get a new director to join in, have that fail, keep the same deadline for the film's release, and then call it the person's film of whoever does end up directing it.
You're not too familiar with Hollywood are you.
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Old June 3 2014, 11:04 PM   #402
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Yeah. They don't call it whoever is directing's film out of respect, they do it because that person's name will get asses in the theater and money in their pockets. If they get an A-list director to take over, they'l still call it that person's film, no matter how little creative control they have.
I don't understand why you seem to have such an issue with the way these movies are made, FSM. Maybe I haven't been paying close enough attention, but I haven't heard that many complaints from the people involved, and quite a few of them have been coming back for multiple movies, so I don't see the problem. Honestly, the movies have been good, and most people involved seem happy or at least content, so I say it is working and they might as well keep doing it.
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Old June 3 2014, 11:37 PM   #403
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I'm actually more interested in the Ant Man movie now that Wright is being replaced. I really wouldn't want to see an Ant Man that isn't like the Ant Man from the comics, in as much as the other Avengers are like their respective selves.
There isn't any evidence that either:

a) Wright's Ant-Man wouldn't have been like the Ant-Man of the comics (at least relative to the similarities of other characters). The chronology is a bit different in that Hank Pym's experience occurs in the 60s and 70s, but the characterization of Pym and Lang are what you seem to be talking about.

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b) The characterization going forward would be significantly different from the characterization under Wright - particularly since Michael Douglas hasn't been fired as far as I know, so any chronological issues remain.

On a side note, Marvel has found a Dr. Strange director, which makes this hunt a little more sad.
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To be fair, it is an Ant-Man movie. Unlike heroes like the Hulk, Iron Man, or Captain America, he really is obscure to the general public. And even if you are familiar with him, it's hard to argue that he's just kind of a meh character all around. Sure, he's got brains and was responsible for quite a bit of the metaplot, but with Tony Stark being the father of Ultron, well...

I dunno. I'd, personally, not want to have to be responsible for trying to make "Ant-Man" cool. I can see why a lot of directors would be passing on that opportunity.
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Old June 4 2014, 12:05 AM   #405
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Yeah. They don't call it whoever is directing's film out of respect, they do it because that person's name will get asses in the theater and money in their pockets. If they get an A-list director to take over, they'l still call it that person's film, no matter how little creative control they have.
I don't understand why you seem to have such an issue with the way these movies are made, FSM. Maybe I haven't been paying close enough attention, but I haven't heard that many complaints from the people involved, and quite a few of them have been coming back for multiple movies, so I don't see the problem. Honestly, the movies have been good, and most people involved seem happy or at least content, so I say it is working and they might as well keep doing it.
Well, to be fair, they didn't complain. I mean Superhero films are on the upswing, and first phase or two of the MCU is pretty successful.. quantifiable, it's a good career move for any director.

But film directors don't get into that business to merely sell out, unless your last name is Ratner. They'd rather inject in their own soul into a film than someone else's. I think the television-model that Marvel is following his becoming more and more obvious as the phases continue.. and I also think that these directors see what I see: that much of the Avenger's success was a novelty thing (seeing heroes form different films together in one film). You can only really have that novelty once, but I guarantee it that Marvel is trying to capture that again. Mackey (who played Falcon in Winter Soldier) said what I said, that that film was actually Avengers 1.5.

I don't think Spielberg, Zemeckis, or the Lucas of old who have brought out all of their great, visionary early blockbusters if their vision rested in the hands of some producer who (seemingly) has no qualifications save for the fact that he likes comic books.

Remember all the work, that went into those early blockbusters, work that stands apart because there was no guarantee that any of it would actually on screen. The filmmakers had to have a lot of faith and hard work and do everything they could to make sure it worked.. bringing every talent to bear on the project. These days, they plan, shoot, and go to post for a crapload of CGI. I think the most impressive thing about the MCU is how good Iron Man's suit looks on film.. I'll give them that. But there's little risk that something won't work.
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