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Old March 18 2014, 04:35 AM   #1336
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That's the one aspect of the timeline I take issue with and would change. Clearly it was meant to fall into the continuity of a preceding season on Cartoon Network and the events don't take place after the new Order 66/Fives arc. There's already been some lengthy debate about this over on other sites.
Sorry, why is that clear? I don't recall Fives or the murdered Jedi showing up in the Clovis arc, so I don't see any continuity issue there. Sure, Palpatine's voice is different, but that's a real-world difference rather than one meant to exist in-universe. And both arcs involve Palpatine/Sidious's successful machinations to advance his long-term plans, so they sort of go together in that sense.
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Old March 18 2014, 06:28 PM   #1337
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So have we discussed how this can still tie in with the Genndy Tartakovsky bits, or has it been concluded that there's no real way to fit them together? At least the other series has a final storyline that dovetailed directly into ROTS, no?

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Old March 18 2014, 07:08 PM   #1338
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^Didn't someone say earlier in this thread (or somewhere) that the Filoni series could fit pretty well into the narrative gap at the start of season 2 of the Tartakovsky series?
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Old March 18 2014, 07:27 PM   #1339
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I haven't read this, but I do recall some people saying that some events aren't reconcilable (not sure where though). Obviously there are big thematic differences between the two series, and TCW uses 120+ episodes to build quite a large universe versus 3-5 minute clips at a time. However, in terms of plot, I think we're still in the green...

I haven't seen the Tartakovsky series since their DVDs came out, but while they obviously don't resolve all the hanging plot threads, at least it does segue directly into the opening act of Episode III. TCW doesn't NEED to - the "kidnapping" of Palpatine is expositioned just fine in the opening crawl - and episode 6x13 ends on a thematic point that works for me. But Ashoka, Maul, all the Mandalorian stuff, etc... Come on, Rebels, you KNOW you can give us a ton of closure once you get going.

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Old March 18 2014, 07:54 PM   #1340
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I'm not sure, but I think there's a discrepancy between the two series about whether Anakin ever met Asajj Ventress prior to graduating to full Jedi and cutting his padawan braid.
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Old March 18 2014, 08:10 PM   #1341
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It'd be a shame if the Tartakovsky Clone Wars stories were decanonized and jettisoned. There might well be some glaring discrepancies in continuity if one lined up the old episodes from a decade ago alongside the Cartoon Network/Netflix stories but there were characters and aspects of Tartakovsky's work that I remain fond of to this day. The bounty hunter Durge, for one, whom I believe would have made a fine addition to the roster of recurring villains in the Filoni series.

It's true that the old series doesn't feature Ahsoka nor other longstanding, familiar elements that helped make the more recent show so popular and highly regarded, but right now I imagine it's all up in the air along with much of the EU that's being scrutinized for inclusion in or exclusion from what will be the new, official, Disney-approved canon.
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I'm not sure, but I think there's a discrepancy between the two series about whether Anakin ever met Asajj Ventress prior to graduating to full Jedi and cutting his padawan braid.
I don't know didn't Anakin already seem to know her in Hidden Enemy which was her earliest appearance in TCW.
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Old March 18 2014, 09:27 PM   #1343
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^Maybe. Like I said, I'm not sure.
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There's also the matter that the microseries contradicts the same events depicted in the Labyrinth of Evil novel. And the fact that characters in the microseries had god-like super powers

I absolutely loved the micro-series. I'm definitely going to rewatch it when I finish my Clone Wars rewatch!
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Old March 18 2014, 11:05 PM   #1345
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There's also the matter that the microseries contradicts the same events depicted in the Labyrinth of Evil novel.
Is that relevant? Despite what Lucasfilm claimed, it's been clear ever since the prequels came out that the books aren't actually canonical. I thought the question on the table was whether the two TV series were compatible.
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Old March 18 2014, 11:46 PM   #1346
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As far as I can tell, you can pretty neatly fit the entirety of TCW between this scene and the one that follows it.

The only possible inconsistency I can think of is the design of Anakin's artificial hand, but I'm pretty sure we never really see it in TCW sans glove anyway.
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Old March 19 2014, 01:42 AM   #1347
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Despite what Lucasfilm claimed, it's been clear ever since the prequels came out that the books aren't actually canonical.
On another website I once got in serious trouble for pointing out that AOTC retconned Tales of the Bounty Hunters. Good times.
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Old March 19 2014, 01:49 AM   #1348
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I've been powering through this show since Netflix added it, and I'm already in the beginning of Season 5. One thing that keeps bugging me, though, is how futile it all is. I'm watching this thing rooting for Jedi and the Republic, but at the same time, I know that they're going to lose. Not just that, but the whole show is about Republic vs. Separatists...both of which are being led by the same damn person!

I wonder how I'd feel if all these Star Wars adventures had been made in chronological order. How shocked would we all be if we didn't know going in that Palpatine and Sidious were one in the same?
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Old March 19 2014, 02:15 AM   #1349
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The novels are canon... until they're contradicted by filmed materials

I believe Tales of the Bounty Hunters is canon except for the Boba Fett story obviously, which has been retconned as being a false rumor about Boba or something.
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Old March 19 2014, 02:57 AM   #1350
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The novels are canon... until they're contradicted by filmed materials
Which is the definition of "not canon."
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