Captain America: The Winter Soldier pre-release thread

[Captain Craig]

CaptainCanada wrote:

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Er, both of those characters came much later than Falcon. Falcon debuted in the 1960s; Blade in the 70s, and Jim Rhodes only became Iron Man/War Machine in the 1980s/90s.

That comment was awhile back and not in relation to their chronological appearance in the comics.

I believe we were commenting on Mackie's statement he was excited to be the first African-American hero in the MCU on film. I was pointing out that War Machine got there first(IM2 of course) and that while not MCU Blade has made to film first as well representing Marvel comics.

[Skywalker]

I thought he clearly meant that he was excited to be playing the first African American superhero, which is correct. He didn't say anything about being the first one in the MCU.

[Captain Craig]

^^^
If that's the case then yeah, I probably just read it too fast at the time and I misunderstood his statement.

[Turtletrekker]

Wasn't Black Panther the first African-American super-hero?

[Christopher]

Turtletrekker wrote:

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Wasn't Black Panther the first African-American super-hero?

No; he's African, but not American. King of Wakanda, remember?

[Turtletrekker]

D'oh!

[Turtletrekker]

Five actresses are up for the role of Steve Rogers' love interest--

Deadline reports that five actresses are being considered: Emelia Clarke from Games of Thrones, Alison Brie (who has worked with Winter Soldier directors Joe and Anthony Russo on Community), Downton Abbey's Jessica Brown Findlay, I Am Number Four's Teresa Palmer and Fright Night's Imogen Poots. Though the role hasn't been confirmed, it's been speculated that it could be Sharon Carter, following the role that Peggy Carter played in the first film.

Also-- Possible appearance by another Avenger...

The same report states that Scarlett Johansson may reprise her role of Black Widow in the film, which would seem to be a natural fit given the character's connection to the Winter Soldier in the comic books.

I can see this as why Scarlett was originally said to be in IM3, and then she wasn't. The Widow has a much more natural part to play in this story.

[RoJoHen]

I was actually wondering how crossovers would work in this little Marvel superhero movie universe that we have now. How likely are we to see other characters in movies that aren't there own? I'd love to see an Avenger or two hanging out in Asgard.

[CorporalCaptain]

Christopher wrote:

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No; he's African, but not American. King of Wakanda, remember?

Turtletrekker wrote:

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D'oh!

However, according to the wiki,

He is the first black superhero in mainstream American comics, debuting several years before such early African-American superheroes as Marvel Comics' the Falcon and Luke Cage, and DC Comics' Tyroc, Black Lightning and Green Lantern John Stewart.

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He is the first Black superhero in mainstream comic books; virtually no Black heroes were created before him, none with actual super powers. These included the characters in the single-issue, low-distribution All-Negro Comics #1 (1947); Waku, Prince of the Bantu, who starred in his own feature in the omnibus title Jungle Tales, from Marvel's 1950s predecessor, Atlas Comics; and the Dell Comics Western character Lobo, the first Black person to star in his own comic book. Previous non-caricatured Black supporting characters in comics include U.S. Army infantry private Gabriel Jones of Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandos.

[Skywalker]

Nobody's arguing that Black Panther wasn't the first black superhero, just that Falcon was the first African American one.

[CorporalCaptain]

Oh OK, gotya.

[Skywalker]

Still, thanks for posting that information.

[CorporalCaptain]

No sweat. Seemed like clarification was still needed.

Looking back at the previous page, I now remember reading Zombie Cheerleader/Nerys Myk's coverage of that point. But that was over two weeks ago, and for some reason it seems a lot longer. This thread's been on such a slow burn, I'd forgotten it was the same thread.

[Kosh Naranek]

I am intrigued by SJ's BW being in the film. I was unaware of the connection between Black Widow and the WS until finding this thread.

Sounds promising.

I like Jessica B-F in DA, but her character is a tad dull. I cannot decide if it is the actress or the direction.

[CaptainCanada]

Since all but one of those actresses mentioned are British (and Brie just did a supporting role with what was supposedly a pretty good English accent), it's clearly Sharon.