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Old October 23 2013, 03:59 AM   #376
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I think that the Peggy Carter scenes are supposed to be modern day, with Atwell just under a lot of elderly make-up.
Yeah, but the same can't be said for Dominic Cooper's return as Howard Stark. Unless he turns up miraculously alive... but that's the sort of thing that should happen in an Iron Man film instead, if it were going to happen.
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Old October 23 2013, 04:07 AM   #377
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Maybe he got drunk and left a message in a film for Cap....
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Old October 23 2013, 05:54 AM   #378
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I'm still really hoping that in Cap 2 they make some reveal there were other "replacement Caps" during the Cold War. Give us some extra fodder to explore.
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Old October 23 2013, 06:14 AM   #379
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I'm still really hoping that in Cap 2 they make some reveal there were other "replacement Caps" during the Cold War. Give us some extra fodder to explore.
The only replacement Cap that worked was the Commie smasher racist from Englehart's run. The others were just retcon over kills. It worked because he was the anti-Cap even though he thought he was carrying on Cap's legacy. The moment he finds out Steve is the real Cap is priceless.
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Old October 23 2013, 06:38 AM   #380
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^ I disagree. The original What If? #4 (The only What If? to not take place in an alternate universe), which told the tale of the first two replacement Caps, is one of my favorite books from that era.
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Old October 23 2013, 06:59 AM   #381
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I'm still hoping that they'll do "Captain America No More!" with the Super-Patriot for Captain America 3.
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Old October 23 2013, 07:18 AM   #382
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^ I disagree. The original What If? #4 (The only What If? to not take place in an alternate universe), which told the tale of the first two replacement Caps, is one of my favorite books from that era.
one of my favorites too. i do hope at some point they touch on the subject of Caps replacements.
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Old October 23 2013, 01:46 PM   #383
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Interesting note: In the latest Agents of SHIELD, Rogers' identity is treated as public knowledge...at least by those who care to look.
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^ I disagree. The original What If? #4 (The only What If? to not take place in an alternate universe), which told the tale of the first two replacement Caps, is one of my favorite books from that era.
Great story, but its just two Caps too many.
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^ I disagree. The original What If? #4 (The only What If? to not take place in an alternate universe), which told the tale of the first two replacement Caps, is one of my favorite books from that era.
Great story, but its just two Caps too many.
how do you feel about Bucky Cap then?
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Old October 24 2013, 12:12 AM   #386
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The replacement Caps thing isn't something that the MCU needs to bother getting cluttered up with. In the comics, they were retcons for dealing with the rather wide discrepancy between the 1960s story that established Cap and Bucky's fates towards the end of WWII and the characters' actual Timely/Atlas publishing history in the late 40s and 50s. None of that matters to the new continuity of the MCU, and having other Captain Americas running around over the years (some tarnishing his reputation) cheapens the impact of the original Cap returning after so many years.

OTOH, in the pre-closing credits scene of TIH, Stark says that the super-soldier project was discontinued for a reason. There's definitely room in that backstory for an attempt at creating another Cap somewhere during the intervening decades that went horribly wrong. They kinda, sorta covered that ground with Blonsky, but it would be interesting for Cap to have to deal with a nemesis created in his image. (Maybe the light-up shield seen in the Iron Man films was created by one of the Starks for the replacement's use....)

And yeah, nice poster.
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Old October 24 2013, 12:32 AM   #387
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^ I disagree. The original What If? #4 (The only What If? to not take place in an alternate universe), which told the tale of the first two replacement Caps, is one of my favorite books from that era.
Great story, but its just two Caps too many.
how do you feel about Bucky Cap then?
Not fond of the concept. Didn't care for John Walker Cap either. Bucky should have stayed dead.
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I like the basic concept of the sidekick rising to the role of his former mentor, but it seems premature to consider replacing Evans in the role yet.
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Great story, but its just two Caps too many.
how do you feel about Bucky Cap then?
Not fond of the concept. Didn't care for John Walker Cap either. Bucky should have stayed dead.
At least with Walker it was deliberate that you weren't supposed to like him or keep him as Cap.
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i'll be honest, i was very much against the idea of Bucky being brought back. but Brubaker really turned that into a great story. his era of Captain America is one of my favorites.
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