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Old March 8 2013, 08:08 PM   #1471
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I know we go on about the gasoline situation, but shouldn't food also be a concern at this point? Not just the scarcity, but the fact that canned foods have an expiration date, for two reasons. First the food will spoil over time, preservatives or not, and second, from contamination from the metal container. The acids and preservatives can eat away at the cans over time.

Food poisoning should be a real problem for those people not growing their own food. And without ways to treat these gastro-intestinal infections, death is a real possibility.
Not quite yet on the canned food. Remember, at most it's been a year. The scarcity of food is a little hard to believe. They need to get smart and hunt down some of the distribution warehouses for the grocery stores. Even the British show Survivors got that right.
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Old March 9 2013, 12:18 AM   #1472
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I know we go on about the gasoline situation, but shouldn't food also be a concern at this point? Not just the scarcity, but the fact that canned foods have an expiration date, for two reasons. First the food will spoil over time, preservatives or not, and second, from contamination from the metal container. The acids and preservatives can eat away at the cans over time.

Food poisoning should be a real problem for those people not growing their own food. And without ways to treat these gastro-intestinal infections, death is a real possibility.
Not quite yet on the canned food. Remember, at most it's been a year. The scarcity of food is a little hard to believe. They need to get smart and hunt down some of the distribution warehouses for the grocery stores. Even the British show Survivors got that right.
This is true. We can expect every local grocery store has been cleaned out, but in the U.S., "whareouse" stores such as Wal-Mart, Smart & Final, and Sam's Club truly are warehouses in the stockrooms, so there's bound to be a wealth of food items left over (if the stores are in the smaller towns). Why the Atlanta group did not seek out more of that when running around the city generates more questions than answers.

In addition to food, if I were in that world, vitamins (pill and liquid) would be a must to keep up overall immune strength, and as support for the eventual lack of fruit and vegetables.
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Old March 9 2013, 04:22 AM   #1473
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In addition to food, if I were in that world, vitamins (pill and liquid) would be a must to keep up overall immune strength, and as support for the eventual lack of fruit and vegetables.
Let's not forget raiding every pharmacy for antibiotics, blood pressure medication and any number of common drugs. I would be stopping at sporting goods stores for weapons, ammo, camping supplies and duffel bags, and load those bags with drugs.
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Old March 9 2013, 05:25 AM   #1474
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I know we go on about the gasoline situation, but shouldn't food also be a concern at this point? Not just the scarcity, but the fact that canned foods have an expiration date, for two reasons. First the food will spoil over time, preservatives or not, and second, from contamination from the metal container. The acids and preservatives can eat away at the cans over time.

Food poisoning should be a real problem for those people not growing their own food. And without ways to treat these gastro-intestinal infections, death is a real possibility.
As others have pointed out, canned food can last for years.

I would think clean water would be a bigger problem. Every time some city experiences a halfway significant power outage there are warnings about water contamination....and that's without zombies decomposing in the supply.
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Old March 9 2013, 06:27 AM   #1475
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I have to admit I used to think TWD was a really accurate realistic look at an apocalypse, but now that we're talking about this stuff there are a lot of things that could be addressed. That is one nice thing about Revolution being set mostly 15 years after the apocalyptic event, at that point the characters have mostly moved past having to deal with a lot of these issues.
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Old March 9 2013, 06:34 AM   #1476
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While not directly on point, the documentaries The World Without Us and Population Zero both do a pretty good job of describing how quickly things would fall apart in the apocalypse and why things would be even worse in TWD than seen so far. For example, after just two days without human intervention, the New York City subway system would be flooded. After one year, every nuclear power plant on Earth would have failed or melted down.
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Old March 9 2013, 08:20 AM   #1477
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Sure, but that is assuming no one shuts them down before it gets to the point that they are likely to be unmanned. This wasn't an overnight thing, and nuclear reactors generally aren't in highly populated areas.
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Old March 9 2013, 07:18 PM   #1478
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In addition to food, if I were in that world, vitamins (pill and liquid) would be a must to keep up overall immune strength, and as support for the eventual lack of fruit and vegetables.
Let's not forget raiding every pharmacy for antibiotics, blood pressure medication and any number of common drugs. I would be stopping at sporting goods stores for weapons, ammo, camping supplies and duffel bags, and load those bags with drugs.
It does bug me that the only time they bothered to swing by a pharmacy for meds is to pick up some abortion pills. Every wound, from Rick getting stabbed by Morgan to Hershel's leg being chopped of with a dirty ax would require antibiotics to prevent infection & sepsis

I just end up having to let that one go, along with what constitutes exposure to the disease. Michonne had an aquarium of zombie heads spill out all over her wounds & open body cavities. If that don't infect you, what does?
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Old March 9 2013, 07:23 PM   #1479
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Perhaps the zombie virus also adds a certain degree of protection from infection (it must kill microbes to slow the rotting process in the zombies). In any case, there have been mention of scavenging antibiotics on several occasions. In fact, when Daryl first appeared he shared some antibiotics for the benefit of a deathly ill T-Dog.
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Old March 9 2013, 09:16 PM   #1480
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Sure, but that is assuming no one shuts them down before it gets to the point that they are likely to be unmanned. This wasn't an overnight thing, and nuclear reactors generally aren't in highly populated areas.
Understood and that is one of the reasons that I said those series were not directly on point. However, they do tend to show how quickly technology and other things would break down without constant human maintenance.
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Old March 9 2013, 11:20 PM   #1481
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90% of those are just silly or don't matter in the sligtest . Seriously, he had afrying pan sohe must have had food? Do people throw out the frying pan when they need groceries?
Most of them can also be easily explained.
And yet you.... don't.

In fact, you people keep coming up with excuses so you don't have to deal with the problems in this episode.

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"Rick and Michonne essentially murdered the Hitchhiker.
Maggie shot the girl because she was armed, and to Maggie, she was another Woodbury threat. You--the audience member may see her as a "teenage girl," but she was one of the gaurds--or placed herself in that situation. Notice how Maggie and Rick did not shoot unarmed people.
Hayley was NOT armed, and she was NOT a Guard. Hayley was unarmed and standing among the long line of people in the crowd in the background. Hayley did NOT place herself in that situation to get shot. She was one of the first people shot, if not the first shot after the Walker, not even having time to realize what was going on, let alone your delusion that she was actually attacking or fighting or threatening?!

Some of you are so obsessed with defending the (I admit) few problems with this show that you're basically now trying to justify murder.

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I stopped reading after the first paragraph. Clearly you are not watching the whole show.
I watched the episode twice back-to-back, with the Talking Dead in between.

You however admit you didn't even read the post.

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Additionally, searching abandoned homes is dangerous. Recall what happened when Andrea & Shane scouted a neighborhood.
I recall Shane had to stop the car because Andrea was giving him a handjob.

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Old March 10 2013, 12:16 AM   #1482
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And yet you.... don't.

In fact, you people keep coming up with excuses so you don't have to deal with the problems in this episode.
Uh... no. We don't have to deal with the problems in this episode regardless. There's no one requiring us to explain anything.
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Old March 10 2013, 12:58 AM   #1483
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It does bug me that the only time they bothered to swing by a pharmacy for meds is to pick up some abortion pills.
Glenn retrieved emergency contraception (the "morning after pill"), which is not an abortifacient.

Also, that was the second time Glenn and Maggie had gone to that pharmacy. The first was for medical and other general supplies, while the second was to get the EC.
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Old March 10 2013, 03:14 AM   #1484
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Speaking of nuclear reactors, if there was no one to maintain them, the East Coast would be toast. Unlike the West Coast, which has four locations, the EC is littered with them from Florida to New Hampshire. The EC would be an irradiated mess.

Here is a map of the known nuclear reactors:
* http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Co.../#.UTvrEzfzmJM
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It does bug me that the only time they bothered to swing by a pharmacy for meds is to pick up some abortion pills.
Glenn retrieved emergency contraception (the "morning after pill"), which is not an abortifacient.

Also, that was the second time Glenn and Maggie had gone to that pharmacy. The first was for medical and other general supplies, while the second was to get the EC.
and a pregnancy test. And they picked up some condoms while they were there.
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