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Old February 12 2013, 03:48 AM   #1051
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Has she said more than 10 words total yet? If it wasn't for Andrea, we probably wouldn't know her name yet!

Entertaining for a little bit, now just getting old. You can be surly and standoffish, but still gotta SPEAK if you want anyone to give a shit.

Christ, Silent Bob has had more lines than Michonne...
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Old February 12 2013, 05:38 AM   #1052
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That Nubian princess wasn't the only one who is as tight-lipped as an Aldebaran shellmouth.

Tyrese asks Hershel who is in charge. No answer.
The people of Woodbury ask the governor what will come next. No answer.
Hershel asks Glenn what is wrong. No answer.
Hershel asks Maggie what is wrong. No answer.

This is from this one episode. I feel that many situations in this series arise because people aren't open.

Why didn't Andrea pistol whip that zombie?

Why didn't Rick's team spend the time to map the prison? Why are they constantly surprised that people and zombies keep popping up within the prison walls?

If I had to deal with a leader who is losing it, I hope I would have the courage to frag him. There are enough concerns and worries alone, and having a mentally unbalanced leader would only increase my anxiety and depression. I may get killed by the others, but at least I would know that I helped the group.

This is the first episode in a while where I got tired of the utter stupidity and stubbornness of these characters. Personally, I think that there would be people who would be behaving better than these characters in this scenario. I think the series is succumbing to Hollywood cliches about an apocalyptic scenario. I don't feel this show has the momentum to keep going after a fourth year.
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Old February 12 2013, 05:42 AM   #1053
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Felt a bit slow-moving to me, and the hallucination was not a welcome thing to see, kind of more of same. But having said that, it looks like some splintering is about to take place judging from the preview...
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Old February 12 2013, 10:35 AM   #1054
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Rick made the wrong decision about Tyreese's group, though, but it was all about him being crushed by responsibility. It's significant that he was about to change his mind when Laurie appeared. His subconscious can't deal with more potential guilt.
I don't know. Rick was only half-wrong about Tyrese's group. Two of them were already plotting to jump Carl and Carol and seize control of the prison.

And we've seen that Tyrese is a decent guy who wants to do the right thing, but Rick has no way of knowing this. He hasn't seen what we've seen.
Rick has had dissent from people in his group who wanted to take a questionable course of action; most notably Shane, but also Andrea and others. Tyrese has been very patient and civilized and those who were left at the prison have become familiar with him. Rick was in Tyrese's position at the CDC and with the voices on the phone, so if he were in his right mind I think he would choose differently.
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Old February 12 2013, 12:25 PM   #1055
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Let's just hope they keep more than one black female at a time. Otherwise Sasha is a goner.
WD scripting is fairly predictable, so I would guess Sasha is a goner. On this show, supporting characters either end up being paperweights with a line or two just to show they are still alive (Beth), or have the kind of personality designed to eventually get them into trouble (Dale). Sasha seems to be the latter, and I would bet she will get hers at the hands of her plotting companions, or the angry cyclops, or a combination of both.

Although it does seem the writers have no clue about what to do with Michonne. I'd feel better about the character's future if they could give her a personality.
I think they are waiting to give her some "big moment" to have another showdown with the Gov/prove herself to Rick's group when it matters most.
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Old February 12 2013, 12:53 PM   #1056
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I feel that many situations in this series arise because people aren't open.
That's pretty much Lost in a nutshell.
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Old February 12 2013, 03:33 PM   #1057
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I think the series is succumbing to Hollywood cliches about an apocalyptic scenario. I don't feel this show has the momentum to keep going after a fourth year.
Nonetheless, they pulled in big numbers last night - an all time high yet again. But I agree, if the series starts to wander aimlessly and the plots start to become a rinse repeat of fight the zombies and the other nasty bad alive people - over and over ad nausea - people will get tired of that quickly and won't stick around.

One of the reasons I liked season one so much is we uncovered why the Apocalypse happened. More investigation into that and a potential cure is needed.

Also, some back story on how the world fell apart would be interesting too.

ETA: One thing is notably different - there sure isn't the same level of interest on the TrekBBS as last season on posting about the show - so if this place is any indication about the future of the show they may be in trouble.

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AMC’s The Walking Dead returned last night from its third-season break with 12.3 million viewers, a series high for the zombie apocalypse drama. Up against the Grammys, the 9 PM midseason premiere pulled in 7.7 million viewers among Adults 18-49, a basic-cable record for a series and up 6% from the show’s previous high for its October 14 season premiere. In total, 16.6 million viewers watched Walking Dead last night combining the 9 PM premiere and 11 PM, midnight and 2 AM encores on AMC. The series was back Sunday for the last eight episodes of its third season after a break of more than two months.

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Old February 12 2013, 05:39 PM   #1058
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With ratings like that I suspect TWD will be fine whether the Trek BBS is enthusiastic or not. We're not exactly the entire viewing audience here.
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Old February 12 2013, 05:56 PM   #1059
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Well, I can tell you there are two new fans of the series. Mrs.Q2 & I just started watching this on NetFlix last week and became instant fans. Through NetFlix we blew though the first two season over the last week! We love this show. Thanks to Amazon, we're now almost caught up (think we're on 03X05). Give it a day and we'll be watching this weeks DVR'd episode!

Mad Men, Breaking Bad and now this, AMC has some real winners in our household. I'll probably write more when we get caught up. Probably shouldn't be posting in here, trying to stay somewhat spoiler free, but had to say we're hooked!

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Old February 12 2013, 06:01 PM   #1060
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Rick made the wrong decision about Tyreese's group, though, but it was all about him being crushed by responsibility. It's significant that he was about to change his mind when Laurie appeared. His subconscious can't deal with more potential guilt.
I don't know. Rick was only half-wrong about Tyrese's group. Two of them were already plotting to jump Carl and Carol and seize control of the prison.

And we've seen that Tyrese is a decent guy who wants to do the right thing, but Rick has no way of knowing this. He hasn't seen what we've seen.
Rick has had dissent from people in his group who wanted to take a questionable course of action; most notably Shane, but also Andrea and others. Tyrese has been very patient and civilized and those who were left at the prison have become familiar with him. Rick was in Tyrese's position at the CDC and with the voices on the phone, so if he were in his right mind I think he would choose differently.
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Old February 12 2013, 06:22 PM   #1061
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^ Indeed. Not to mention Carol points out Axl and Oscar weren't like Tomas. Rick responds: "Yeah, and where's Oscar now?"

Um, Rick? He's dead alright - giving his life for the group. I'd say he proved himself pretty damn well as being trustworthy.

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One of the reasons I liked season one so much is we uncovered why the Apocalypse happened. More investigation into that and a potential cure is needed.

Also, some back story on how the world fell apart would be interesting too.
Ugh, no thanks. No explanations and definitely no cure, please.
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Old February 12 2013, 06:28 PM   #1062
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^ Indeed. Not to mention Carol points out Axl and Oscar weren't like Tomas. Rick responds: "Yeah, and where's Oscar now?"

Um, Rick? He's dead alright - giving his life for the group. I'd say he proved himself pretty damn well as being trustworthy.

Exactly, Rick said he couldn't be responsible. I think that Rick is no longer denying people entry into the group because he doesn't trust them, he's doing it because he blames himself for every death and doesn't want to be responsible for any more.
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Old February 12 2013, 06:33 PM   #1063
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That would fit with the Ghost!Lori too. Hmm, acceptable I suppose for now.

What I'm hoping this leads to is

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Old February 12 2013, 06:41 PM   #1064
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^^That explanation does seem more likely. The burden of leadership is getting to Rick.

Frankly, I'd rather watch Walking Dead evolve into a show about a community trying to rebuild than watch endless cycles of the living fighting each other and the core characters moving to a new "safe haven" every season.

Maybe it's realistic to think that humans would be ridiculously paranoid and untrusting of each other, but the only way humans are going to avoid extinction is if they rebuild communities. We don't need to see more flashbacks or explanations for the how and why of the apocalypse, but I for one want to see some activity towards rebuilding civilization in the show.
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Old February 12 2013, 06:54 PM   #1065
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Beyond the Death of Lori Berserk, this is the first time the group has really seen Rick lose it, is it not? I count zombie rampage death + telephone delusions as one event.

He does not want to be responsible for more people. That is how I took his comment about Oscar. Oscar came in. Oscar went out and Rick is carrying guilt over every passing.

The Rick of last season seemed very willing to help others out. The fear of loss is shaping him.

I liked the flip flop. Last season Rick wanted sanctuary and Herschel did not want to add to his group. Now Herschel wants to let people in and Rick is closing them off.

I liked Carol's comparison of her abusive relationship with her husband to that of Darly and Merle. I always thought of Merle as abusive toward Daryl.
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