"The Dark Knight Rises" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)

[stj]

I've never understood the claim that Nolan's movies had or aimed at verisimilitude. There's a strong interest in avoiding anything that might be construed as campy, which isn't the same thing at all. And there's a tendency to incorporate reactionary views as premises. I suppose people who believe those premises might regard the movies as more realistic. But that still seems awfully imperceptive.

Thinking back, I can't recall how Batman was even supposed to fight crime except by interfering in the act, an impossible task. However could any criminals be tried and convicted by Batman's activities? Drab isn't realistic, any more than bright and colorful is childish. Except possibly in some people's minds.

[OdoWanKenobi]

Gordon could have very easily put it all together if he wanted to. That's the thing, though. Gordon doesn't want to. He explicitly states that he doesn't care who Batman is. That's always the way it's been in the comics, too. Gordon doesn't know because he doesn't want to know. Once, when Batman offered to reveal his identity, Gordon told Batman that if he wanted to know, he already would.

[Agent Richard07]

Thanks to a massive opening in China, The Dark Knight Rises is now the 13th movie ever to reach $1 billion worldwide. Including Monday domestic grosses, The Dark Knight Rises has now made over $1.01 billion, which means sometime this weekend it passed The Dark Knight ($1.003 billion) to become the highest-grossing Batman movie ever.

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[Marc]

OdoWanKenobi wrote:

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Gordon could have very easily put it all together if he wanted to. That's the thing, though. Gordon doesn't want to. He explicitly states that he doesn't care who Batman is. That's always the way it's been in the comics, too. Gordon doesn't know because he doesn't want to know. Once, when Batman offered to reveal his identity, Gordon told Batman that if he wanted to know, he already would.

Would also have given Gordon plausible deniability.

Also didn't Tim Drake get the Robin gig after working out Bruce Wayne was Batman?

[Set Harth]

Just like Blake.

[Samurai8472]

It's been deduced that Blake is Dick,Tim and Todd's personalities and traits all rolled into one.

[Hartzilla2007]

Samurai8472 wrote:

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It's been deduced that Blake is Dick,Tim and Todd's personalities and traits all rolled into one.

I think there also might be a little Terry McGinnis in there.

[Donald Draper]

Hartzilla2007 wrote:

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I think there also might be a little Terry McGinnis in there.

I think it really shows how much similarity there is in all those characters. The comics really just reinvented the character of "Robin" over the years. Without the continuity baggage it would probably be the same person, the same way others characters are reinterpreted in reboots.

In Blake I mostly see Dick and Tim. Very little, if any, of Jason. Probably because Jason had the shortest run. But there is more Dick Grayson than any of the others.

The role of Batman's younger sidekick, assistant, apprentice and potential replacement/successor is always going to evoke Robin. Because he historically is the first character to learn Batman's identity. He even predates the creation of Alfred.

[Mr Light]

I just saw the movie a second time (didn't have anything better to do today!).

Bane's voice bothered me less the second time around, but there were STILL scenes where, already know what happens in the movie, I have no idea what he's saying. Actually not just him, a few times. The sound mixing doesn't seem very good in the movie, the background noise and score overpower the dialogue too much.

[suarezguy]

Average/Fair.

I didn't even remember Hardy was Bane until the rematch with Batman but the character was too much of a mix between that of the comics and the films' Ra's and Joker. Gordon-Levitt and Hathaway weren't as bad as I feared but were too lacking in appeal, especially enough to make Batman so trusting/sympathetic to the latter and it felt unconvincing that Bruce would give up being Batman so quickly for so long (for one thing Joker could have escaped or other villains could have become "inspired") and less convincing that he would then return so easily.
I didn't anticipate Tate being Talia but that was in part because, until she agreed to safeguard the weapon, I thought she was Catwoman. The twist was OK but then we don't know much about Bane's actual past although it's implied to have still been similar to what we thought we knew.

[Immolatus]

did Bane release the inmates from Arkham?

[Mike Farley]

^ No, just the prisoners from Blackgate Prison.

[Donald Draper]

I don't think Arkham is ever mentioned after Batman Begins, was it? Maybe it never reopened and the inmates were relocated to Blackgate.

[Agent Richard07]

Here are some concept drawings of what Bane almost looked like...









Read the article.

[Enterprise is Great]

The one they finally decided on looks the best.