"The Dark Knight Rises" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)

[Lord Garth]

Agent Richard07 wrote:

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With that line of thinking, we'd never get good superhero stories, just more formulaic stuff, and that gets old after a while.

In his defense, he's 61. He grew up expecting different things from superhero movies. He wanted to see the movie with my brother and I, which surprised me. I think he just wanted to do something as a family (as I said, my mother is deceased, so his wanting to spend time with us carries more weight than it would've if she were still alive) and he knew we'd both be going to see it. I remember he liked Batman Begins. He personally didn't remember what was the last Batman movie he saw. I know for a fact that he saw part of The Dark Knight four years ago but I couldn't gauge his opinion. I only posted what he thought to show what one casual movie-goer who's not a fan thought.

My point was you don't have to be a fan of the comic to not like the film. Not everything is "Fanboy this! Fanboy that!" despite what people who want to dismiss any criticism might think.

[Mr. Adventure]

re: Batpod, would something like this work a little better? (imagine it'd be on the other side as well and more spherical if need be).



I don't know... crazy bat-engineering

[Locutus of Bored]

^ Nice job. That would definitely make it less bumpy when he does the little sidestep move.

[Agent Richard07]

Lord Garth wrote:

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In his defense, he's 61. He grew up expecting different things from superhero movies. He wanted to see the movie with my brother and I, which surprised me. I think he just wanted to do something as a family (as I said, my mother is deceased, so his wanting to spend time with us carries more weight than it would've if she were still alive) and he knew we'd both be going to see it. I remember he liked Batman Begins. He personally didn't remember what was the last Batman movie he saw. I know for a fact that he saw part of The Dark Knight four years ago but I couldn't gauge his opinion. I only posted what he thought to show what one casual movie-goer who's not a fan thought.

My point was you don't have to be a fan of the comic to not like the film. Not everything is "Fanboy this! Fanboy that!" despite what people who want to dismiss any criticism might think.

Got it. It's always good to hear what a non-fan or a casual fan thinks. That line I quoted just caught my attention because a lot of people feel that way and I'm usually of the opinion that superhero movies can and should be more serious if need be. If anything it's a break from the norm. In thinking about this movie over the last few weeks, I agree that it would have been nice for Batman to not have dropped the ball on his crimefighting, but at the same time, it was great to see his troubles play out and his days come to an end. I didn't think I'd ever see that in a live-action movie.

[Warped9]

Mr. Adventure wrote:

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re: Batpod, would something like this work a little better? (imagine it'd be on the other side as well and more spherical if need be).



I don't know... crazy bat-engineering

[Kelthaz]

Dark Gilligan wrote:

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They had to set up Blake as Bruce's heir and successor in a credible manner and, more specifically, for the audience to care about him. That's why they took the time, and it wasn't a waste.

There was no need to set up any heir for Batman. The movie could have easily ended with Batman "dead" and the symbol of Batman living on in the ordinary citizens of Gotham City. In fact, thematically speaking, that would have been a much more powerful ending for the trilogy. No, Blake's role strikes me as a studio-mandated decision to give them an option to continue the franchise without Nolan or Bale.

[trekkiebaggio]

^Maybe they could have had an "I am Batman!" scene.

[JarodRussell]

Locutus of Bored wrote:

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^ Nice job. That would definitely make it less bumpy when he does the little sidestep move.

Was the side step move done for real? Since Nolan prefers stuff to be done on set.

[Lapis Exilis]

Mach5 wrote:

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I doubt that. It would de facto be a fourth Nolanverse movie, and I think it was made perfectly clear that it ended with part three.

But the question is, if WB were to get greedy and decide to profit on nu-Robins's popularity (which could end up being short lived, it's too early to tell), would they even get JGL to play him again? Nolan's actors are known to be pretty loyal to him, no? And as far as Nolan is concerned, this thing is definitely over.

Nolan doesn't own anything - Warner's does. If they want to make a movie that is essentially a continuation of this unvierse there's not a damn thing Nolan can do to stop them. And why would he care if they did? He's moved on to other projects. Everyone keeps talking like Warner's is going to be tiptoeing around Nolan over these movies and this universe, which isn't exactly how studios operate, especially with as lucrative of a franchise as Batman.

As for whether they could get JGL - he's plainly positioning himself as an action leading man right now (Premium Rush due out in a couple of weeks), and a Batman II sequel would probably be a big ticket item for at least one film. Blake's story was by far the most interesting character piece of the film and there is a lot of buzz around it. You never know. I imagine it would depend on if they could get a workable script.

[JarodRussell]

I doubt they will be able to get all the actors (especially Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman) back unless Nolan produces/writes the script or they get a shitload of money thrown at them.

[Samurai8472]

Gary and Morgan would probably come back. It is a job in the end.

Gary's done everything from "The book of eli"/ Harry Potter and the upcoming "Robocop" reboot.

Morgan's part could be done in one day of filming.

Caine could do a cameo.

[Mr. Adventure]

Interesting article about building a batpod.
http://m.jalopnik.com/5543789/how-to...our-own-batpod

And less instructional but really fun video of a guy on a homemade batpod inspired ride.
http://m.jalopnik.com/5930576/this-v...his-own-batpod

[Saul]

Since we're asking questions, what is that spinning down punch Bane used on Batman in their first fight? What fighting style is that?

[Lapis Exilis]

Samurai8472 wrote:

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Gary and Morgan would probably come back. It is a job in the end.

Gary's done everything from "The book of eli"/ Harry Potter and the upcoming "Robocop" reboot.

Morgan's part could be done in one day of filming.

Caine could do a cameo.

Why would you even need any of them except for possibly Oldman? It'd be easy enough to set something 3 years down the line, Alfred moved on after TDKR (he's going to stay at Wayne Manor and watch the kids??), Fox has retired (leaving a red-headed wheelchair-bound digi-tech genius in charge of Applied Sciences - woot woot!) and Oldman does the cameo, but the main police character is the head of MCU, characterize and cast as you will.

The above is merely an example of how with a teensy bit of brainstorming you could carry on with the continuity coming via the Manor/ Batcave/ Gotham/ Wayne Enterprises - and not much else.

[Donald Draper]

I watched TDK again yesterday after along time. Its hard to tell how old Gordon's daughter was. But with the time jump to TDKR and another for a potental sequel Barabra would be about the same age as Robin.

Its clear one of the reasons they had such a huge time jump was so that Robin would have been very young when Batman debuted. Beyond the comic tadition of the age gap. But to show the inspiration Batman gave. Whch would have needed to have been a kid. Watching the first two movies now, its easy to imagine that little "John Blake" is following the Batman's exploits in the news. Talking to other kids about him.

Its fitting that Gordon Joseph Levitt was a child actor so we know exactly what he looked like younger. Also that Bale himself started as a child actor.

Anyone notice that the current issue of GQ kind of gives away a huge spoiler?

Levitt is on the cover with a large caption

"BOY WONDER - GORDON JOSEPH LEVITT"