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Old September 16 2012, 04:22 AM   #196
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Re: Urban outs the villain. Maybe.

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To satisfy that 10,000 comic buyers, who are spreading that positive word of mouth, it's highly unlikely Orci would approve a story that duplicates "Where No Man".

Now if Cumberbatch turns up and Kirk says something like, "Gary, my old Academy friend - it's you! But how? We all thought you were dead?" maaaaaybe it would work, because the unseen, offscreen, mysterious past event he is referring to isn't needed for this brand new story about a resurrected friend who suddenly has enough superstrength to battle a Vulcan on the rim of a volcano.
1. JJ Abrams, as the director, would have the final say on the story and won't ditch a good story because it conflicts with a comic book.

2. If it is Mitchell, there will be no mention of the comic book. Directly or indirectly.
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Old September 16 2012, 05:09 AM   #197
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No one has yet to refute Urban's statement that the character is Mitchell.
That's a double negative. It says everyone has refuted Urban's claim.
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Old September 16 2012, 05:09 AM   #198
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No one is going to care about 10,000 comic book readers or their "word of mouth."
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Old September 16 2012, 06:31 AM   #199
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A template doesn't equal a "color-by-numbers" remake.
Well, what are you counting as a "template"? Do you require elements such as Mitchell, the Great Barrier, Kelso, Dr Dehner, a lithium cracking station and Dr Piper all to be in place, or just Mitchell and his friendship with Kirk?

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1. JJ Abrams, as the director, would have the final say on the story
Goes without seeing, but he is the one who entrusted Bob Orci with the ongoing supervision of the IDW comics that are leading into the new movie.

and won't ditch a good story because it conflicts with a comic book.
Since Orci is the co-writer of the film and the instigator of the comic's approved storylines, I don't expect him to contradict himself.

2. If it is Mitchell, there will be no mention of the comic book. Directly or indirectly.
If Mitchell is in the film there will be some suggestion of a previous event having occurred. They allowed the comic to seemingly dispose of Mitchell for a reason; it's either setting up something for the new movie or nothing about IDW's "Where No Man..." storyline will conflict with the next film.

If Orci and JJ didn't care what IDW was up to, and were happy to let them run loose, they wouldn't have canned the four novels over at Pocket.

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No one is going to care about 10,000 comic book readers or their "word of mouth."
Ordinarily no, but Orci seems to have a grand plan. Hence the promise of easter eggs.

And why shelve the four tie-in novels if no one cares?
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Old September 16 2012, 10:47 AM   #200
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1. JJ Abrams, as the director, would have the final say on the story and won't ditch a good story because it conflicts with a comic book.
But the story of the movie was already set when they made the comic. So we already know it won't conflict.
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Old September 16 2012, 10:59 AM   #201
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10,000 comics readers?

Somehow I doubt that, in today's industry...
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10,000 comics readers?

Somehow I doubt that, in today's industry...
Too many or too few?
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I guess we will all find out in May.
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10,000 comics readers?

Somehow I doubt that, in today's industry...
Too many or too few?
according to comichron.com, the TNG/DW series is selling more than double that.

Admittedly, if that means half the sales are DW fans, and half Trek fans, then maybe 10,000 is right!
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Old September 16 2012, 11:07 PM   #205
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10,000 comics readers?

Somehow I doubt that, in today's industry...
Too many or too few?
according to comichron.com, the TNG/DW series is selling more than double that.

Admittedly, if that means half the sales are DW fans, and half Trek fans, then maybe 10,000 is right!
I was just using a rough average of what IDW's Trek titles had been selling prior to the ongoing series. I've yet to see any numbers for those books.

According to the site you mentioned: Star Trek #12 shipped 10,635 issues.
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