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Old July 21 2012, 06:31 AM   #121
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Re: The Newsroom.

Rumor has it that The Newsroom's writing staff has been decimated.

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Aaron Sorkin has been doing press all week defending his critically-panned HBO show, “The Newsroom,” but behind the scenes he's cleaning house.

Most of the writers on the cable drama about a Keith Olbermann-type television news demagogue have been fired, sources with knowledge of the show told The Daily. "They're not coming back, except for Sorkin's ex-girlfriend [Corinne Kinsbury]," one source said.
The site looks pretty gossipy, so I'll be interested to see if this is true.
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Old July 21 2012, 06:40 AM   #122
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This has been reported on several sites.
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Old July 21 2012, 07:45 AM   #123
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Re: The Newsroom.

Many using the same source. I just wanted a disclaimer in case it wasn't legit.
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Old July 21 2012, 08:14 AM   #124
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Have those writers even received credit this season? I've only seen the first three episodes, but as I recall Sorkin had sole credit on all of them.

EDIT: looks like he had co-written credit on episode three, but is back to sole credit for episode four (and five and six, according to wikipedia).
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Old July 21 2012, 09:00 AM   #125
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He's been writing this series for years.

the scripts were finished probably long before he got the actors in line to start filming.

Constant polishing and second guessing and revision however.
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Old July 21 2012, 02:26 PM   #126
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It's interesting how differently the show is seen. I wouldn't have associated Will McAvoy with Keith Olbermann at all.
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Old July 21 2012, 03:38 PM   #127
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It's interesting how differently the show is seen. I wouldn't have associated Will McAvoy with Keith Olbermann at all.
When the series was first announced it was widely said to be about an Olbermann-style show, and Will basically acts like Olbermann (left-wing ranter who's incredibly difficult to work with).
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Old July 21 2012, 03:58 PM   #128
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Guy Gardener wrote: View Post
He's been writing this series for years.

the scripts were finished probably long before he got the actors in line to start filming.

Constant polishing and second guessing and revision however.
More like, possibly, he outlines the stories, has his staff write the scenes, then he rewrites all the dialog.
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Old July 21 2012, 04:17 PM   #129
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Wikipedia says that he spent two years entrenched in actual news rooms researching the method. If that's even a fraction true, then as the time line plays out these stories which his characters are playing out he saw happening in RL with professionals being professional.

So yeah, he had the "news stuff" sorted out, but if Aaron fired a bunch of writers, then there was a bunch of writers there to be fired, maybe they were on top of the relationships and love stories that balanced off against the news?
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Old July 21 2012, 04:24 PM   #130
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When the series was first announced it was widely said to be about an Olbermann-style show, and Will basically acts like Olbermann (left-wing ranter who's incredibly difficult to work with).
See, I don't think he acts like Olbermann at all. He's a news anchor while Olbermann's show consisted of opinion pieces. While McAvoy's opinions shine through from time to time what we've seen him do most of the time was to present the news in a largely impartial way. It's even in the mission statement of Newsnight 2.0.
I do like Olbermann but Countdown and the fictional Newsnight are two very different shows.
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Old July 21 2012, 09:33 PM   #131
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I'm also starting to get a bit irritated that we have to be also not-so-subtly reminded that the lead character is a "registered Republican" in order for it to be okay for him to speak on traditionally liberal boilerplate issues, and to prove that he's not a Tea Party sycophant.
It is commentary on how extreme Republicans have become that someone like him who was their bread and butter a couple decades ago is now considered far too liberal to belong in the party.
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Old July 21 2012, 10:08 PM   #132
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I'm also starting to get a bit irritated that we have to be also not-so-subtly reminded that the lead character is a "registered Republican" in order for it to be okay for him to speak on traditionally liberal boilerplate issues, and to prove that he's not a Tea Party sycophant.
It is commentary on how extreme Republicans have become that someone like him who was their bread and butter a couple decades ago is now considered far too liberal to belong in the party.
Precisely. Today, if Ronald Reagan were to run for office, he'd be torn apart by the Republican Party.
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Old July 21 2012, 11:43 PM   #133
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Re: The Newsroom.

Some one sent me a link to this clip



makes me want to watch, but I don't have HBO.
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Old July 22 2012, 08:29 AM   #134
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OH!

Now I get it.

Sorkin can only write like this for HBO, but his massive audience that can get off on his junk while being "educated" and "civilized" is everyone that can't afford or be bothered with HBO.

"Sigh"

In the final season of the Mary Tyler Moore show, Mary started dating Lou Grant.
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Old July 22 2012, 03:28 PM   #135
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Re: The Newsroom.

A wonderfully "honest" clip?
We stood up for what was right! We fought for moral reasons...
Except for all those times we fought for the wrong ones...


we never beat our chest.
"I have never heard of Teddy Roosevelt."


We reached for the stars, and we acted like men.
And kept segregation alive into the 1960s!


We didn't identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election
Except for that one time we had, you know, a civil war over just that...


and we didn't scare so easy.
Except for when we delayed getting majorly involved in WW2 as long as we could, because a Nazi-ruled Britain, France and the rest of Europe wouldn't have been that bad...


we cared about our neighbors
Well, not so much the Mexicans or Hawaiians, who we stole entire future states from. Or when we often harassed immigrants, or turned away thousands of those fleeing the Holocaust...


And we were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed.
Though we certainly weren't hampered by the huge quantities of virtually untapped natural resources we had access to once all the native populations were decimated, locked up, or hounded into wastelands.

Outside of that edited video, the same scene, IIRC, has McAvoy (or maybe it was the lady staffer) saying that despite it all, by golly, we still can be the world's greatest country, which is also a ridiculous statement, given how dysfunctional a government our Constitution ensures.
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