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Old August 12 2012, 03:31 AM   #211
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He's a fucking newsman.
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Old August 12 2012, 03:48 AM   #212
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Keep him?

They haven't played the asshole card since the pilot almost.

90 percent of me wants to see Don and Maggie live happily ever after because he looks like puppy who lost his bone every time she takes a step towards Jim.
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Old August 12 2012, 03:58 AM   #213
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I'm ok with the romance on the show. I'm definetely rooting for Will and Mac but I find Jim and Lisa more interesting than Jim and Maggie.
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Old August 12 2012, 04:07 AM   #214
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I'm ok with the romance on the show. I'm definetely rooting for Will and Mac but I find Jim and Lisa more interesting than Jim and Maggie.
Same here. I think Jim has a great opportunity to form a great relationship with Lisa. Let Don and Maggie stay together and work their deal out. Oh, and yeah, definitely fingers crossed for Will and Mackenzie.
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Old August 12 2012, 04:54 AM   #215
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Will and Mackenzie aren't as obnoxious as the Jim/Maggie/Don stuff, thanks to the lack of a painful triangle, among other things, but I can't fathom rooting for them as a couple. I don't see any chemistry there, she's horribly incompetent, and he's an asshole most of the time (especially to her).
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Old August 12 2012, 05:25 AM   #216
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I'm currently watching my way through The West Wing with two friends of mine. Last night, we watched "20 Hours in America" and I saw a young James Tiberius Harper. He was a volunteer for the Bartlet campaign in Indiana but claimed to be called Tyler.
How great is that first season cliffhanger of the west wing?
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Old August 12 2012, 10:21 AM   #217
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^ Pretty great. In the midst of a WW rewatch.
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Old August 12 2012, 11:07 AM   #218
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Yeah, I rewatched Wonder Woman recently too.
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Old August 12 2012, 03:29 PM   #219
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I'm currently watching my way through The West Wing with two friends of mine. Last night, we watched "20 Hours in America" and I saw a young James Tiberius Harper. He was a volunteer for the Bartlet campaign in Indiana but claimed to be called Tyler.
How great is that first season cliffhanger of the west wing?
Quite great but we watched the next two episodes right after that. I can't imagine having to wait several months for the resolution to that one.
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Old August 12 2012, 03:39 PM   #220
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Will and Mackenzie aren't as obnoxious as the Jim/Maggie/Don stuff, thanks to the lack of a painful triangle, among other things, but I can't fathom rooting for them as a couple. I don't see any chemistry there, she's horribly incompetent, and he's an asshole most of the time (especially to her).
I feel similarly, I don't see any chemistry between them and find the two characters damn near insufferable when focusing on their non-relationship, so I'm actively hoping that they don't get together and that the show drops the whole thing. I did like the engagement ring scene because of the shear scale of the dickishness involved, but that's the only time I found their romantic storyline to be interesting, and it only served to show why those two should not be in a relationship.

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How great is that first season cliffhanger of the west wing?
I really liked the start of the second season, it captured the chaos of that sort of situation really well, and there are a lot of interesting parallels to the assassination attempt on Reagan.

One thing I noticed about The Newsroom is that the season 1 finale isn't titled What Kind of Day Has It Been, which is a first for a Sorkin series.
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Old August 13 2012, 07:11 PM   #221
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Not sure of my thoughts on last nights eps... I kinda want to see part two before I comment, as it felt like last night was really only half an eps.
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Old August 13 2012, 10:18 PM   #222
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True, there was a lot of set-up for what is shaping up to be an epic and dramatic story. But it was a pretty good set-up episode which had plenty of great moments. I laughed at the awesome end of the episode.
Before that, I especially liked the exchange between Neal and Sloan (wow, she is crazy, but I like it), it had me in stitches. Then there was Sloan's passionate bidding for space for her important story. I loved the debate prep, especially Maggie's angle on Bachmann's hearing God's voice. And I also thought the scene at Will's psychiatrist was both funny and kind of thought-provoking. It stuck with me, in any case. Will is really messed up and I wonder if he'll ever manage to overcome this emotional baggae he keeps carrying around.
I'm not too optimistic about Newsnight's future the way things are going. The most they can hope for is blackmailing Fiona Lansing with what little they know about the wiretapping. But of course, keeping this story under wraps in exchange for staying on air is also unethical.
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Old August 13 2012, 10:22 PM   #223
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True, there was a lot of set-up for what is shaping up to be an epic and dramatic story. But it was a pretty good set-up episode which had plenty of great moments. I laughed at the awesome end of the episode.
Before that, I especially liked the exchange between Neal and Sloan (wow, she is crazy, but I like it), it had me in stitches. Then there was Sloan's passionate bidding for space for her important story. I loved the debate prep, especially Maggie's angle on Bachmann's hearing God's voice. And I also thought the scene at Will's psychiatrist was both funny and kind of thought-provoking. It stuck with me, in any case. Will is really messed up and I wonder if he'll ever manage to overcome this emotional baggae he keeps carrying around.
I'm not too optimistic about Newsnight's future the way things are going. The most they can hope for is blackmailing Fiona Lansing with what little they know about the wiretapping. But of course, keeping this story under wraps in exchange for staying on air is also unethical.
I'm starting to think Will believes that holding onto the baggage makes him who he is, that he has to hold onto the pain because it defines him.

I can't wait to see how they resolve this!
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Old August 13 2012, 10:58 PM   #224
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I'm starting to think Will believes that holding onto the baggage makes him who he is, that he has to hold onto the pain because it defines him.
Like Captain Kirk?

I forgot to mention this episode's best line: "A modest proposal, we could ourselves commit murder on our air. In your face, Nancy Grace!"
Mac was on fire in this one. I really liked that. Too bad she was fighting a losing battle. By the way, so far, I also sort of like Brian, her ex-boyfriend. His introduction could have been awkward and played out predictably but I appreciated how he took everything in stride and his little duels of dialogue with Will and Mac.
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Old August 13 2012, 11:40 PM   #225
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The actor is in a movie with Olivia Munn called the babymakers which weirdly I saw yesterday.

It feels like an 80s movie.

Guy has to rob a sperm back to get his wife pregnant.
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