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Old September 18 2012, 12:18 PM   #301
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Re: They are going ahead with a Justice League movie

Who is the source? They just make shit up to get hits and attention. They're worse than Comicbookmovies. I look at these two as being the Super Shadow of comic book film news.
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Old September 18 2012, 01:35 PM   #302
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Since there hasn't been a Flash, Wonder Woman, or Martian Manhunter movie, and GL bombed, but WB have generally had better luck with Superman and Batman.... It strikes me that they'd surely be wiser to do a World's Finest movie now than a Justice League one.
But Flash and Wonder Woman did have a television series.

Also consider the X-Men, that is a group of heroes presented at once in a movie and individual superheroes origin stories were only done later as prequels.
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Old September 18 2012, 01:42 PM   #303
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^Supergirl would be redundant between Superman and Wonderwoman.

(then again, an NC-17 movie of Supergirl between Superman and Wonderwoman would be )
Supergirl doesn't have quite the same powers as wonder woman, she doesn't need an invisible plane, and she don't need bracelets to deflect bullets, they just bounce off her skin instead. I never heard of Wonder Woman having x-ray vision or superhearing.

Also Supergirl is a much younger superhero than wonder woman who is thousands of years old. Supergirl's youth and inexperience make for a lot of interesting adventures with her getting into troubles that Wonder Woman would know better than to get into.
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Old September 18 2012, 02:24 PM   #304
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Re: They are going ahead with a Justice League movie

Diana is not "thousands of years old".
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Old September 18 2012, 02:59 PM   #305
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This scoop must be wrong, why would they use Aquaman? That guy's a joke. I know, he's cool and powerful in the comics and newer cartoons, but in the public's eye he's the guy who talks to fish...
All the more reason to make an effort to rehabilitate his image. Iron Man and Thor didn't even have much of a reputation in the general public's eye before their movies came out.


I'd use only five members, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg and Zatanna, nice balance of male and female characters and a variety of origins/power sources, alien, human, mythical, science and magic.
Good idea -- a tighter core cast, and a more diverse one. Still, I think I'd pick John Stewart over Cyborg. The JL should have a GL. And I think there'd be room for Flash too. The Avengers had six core hero characters, seven if you count Fury. (Although given that Hawkeye was relatively marginalized, maybe it's still six.)
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Old September 18 2012, 03:06 PM   #306
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Supergirl's youth and inexperience make for a lot of interesting adventures with her getting into troubles that Wonder Woman would know better than to get into.
So you want an annoying kid sidekick? I'm not against sidekicks, but an inexperienced sidekick getting into trouble in a movie about the grown-up heroes usually doesn't lead to a mini episode of Young Justice, it leads to something like this:
  • "Shiny green rocks, they're so pretty ...argh! Help meee!"
  • " 'Magical death trap' Hah, like that can harm me, Super... argh! Help meee!"
  • "It's so dark in here and it's just the two of us, Martian Manhunter, let me light some torches ... hey, why are you screaming ... NO, don't run!"
  • "Tim and Conner are totally gay for each other, but they won't admit it, I'll just borrow Diana's lasso for a minute and get them in a room together, teheheh. *5 minutes later* Okay, Tim wants to do Conner and can't stop himself undressing him with his eyes every time they're together and Conner is ... not interested at all, awwwkwaaaard"
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Old September 18 2012, 03:13 PM   #307
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Since there hasn't been a Flash, Wonder Woman, or Martian Manhunter movie, and GL bombed, but WB have generally had better luck with Superman and Batman.... It strikes me that they'd surely be wiser to do a World's Finest movie now than a Justice League one.
But Flash and Wonder Woman did have a television series.
over 20 and 40 years ago, respectively!
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Old September 18 2012, 03:18 PM   #308
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Good idea -- a tighter core cast, and a more diverse one. Still, I think I'd pick John Stewart over Cyborg. The JL should have a GL. And I think there'd be room for Flash too. The Avengers had six core hero characters, seven if you count Fury. (Although given that Hawkeye was relatively marginalized, maybe it's still six.)
I would have picked a Green Lantern if not for the recent flop and I originally wanted to include Flash as the sixth, but I decided that I liked five members better.
Avengers worked with more heroes but keep in mind that everyone was surpsised that Whedon managed to give everything something meaningful to do as well as he did.
The bigger the line up, the bigger the risk someone gets screwed and/or the movie suffers from trying to focus on everyone. I'd rather not take that risk, start with a smaller line up and when the first movie was a success, introduce one or two additional members in the second.
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Old September 18 2012, 04:34 PM   #309
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^On the other hand, the less willing the film is to take risks, the less likely that it will be really impressive. If you want to make a great film, you have to be willing to risk making a lousy film. Play it safe and you probably won't do either.
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Old September 18 2012, 04:39 PM   #310
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True, but make five or six characters such a big difference on a impressiveness scale? And I don't think using a five member team can be called playing it safe.
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Old September 18 2012, 04:43 PM   #311
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If you want to make a great film, you have to be willing to risk making a lousy film.
Haha, that's kinda, I dunno... I don't know if that's the way to put it properly.
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Old September 18 2012, 05:10 PM   #312
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True, but make five or six characters such a big difference on a impressiveness scale? And I don't think using a five member team can be called playing it safe.
It wasn't specifically the number of team members I was questioning as the cited reason for it, the mentality that the filmmakers should play it safe rather than being as daring as Whedon was. If that were the philosophy that guided the filmmakers, the result would probably be a mediocre film no matter how many team members it had.
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Old September 18 2012, 05:12 PM   #313
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I would rather have Hawkgirl on the team than Zatanna unless your fighting a magic based villian.
Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, GL(Stewart), and Hawkgirl would be my team to see.
Main villian is Amazo.
End Cameo is Martian Manhunter appearing in JL headquarters, he is barely alive and warns them of the martian invasion.
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Old September 18 2012, 05:45 PM   #314
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I don't think using a five member team can be called playing it safe.
It's called the Justice League. The name alone suggests a number greater than five. If they want to concentrate the story on a smaller core group, that's fine, but other members could easily be seen in the bachground. Sort of like the second X-Men film, where all sorts of recognizable characters were seen among Xavier's students.
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Old September 18 2012, 06:00 PM   #315
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Diana is not "thousands of years old".
Yeah they keep changing her past, hard to keep track, but if she lived from Ancient Greek times when the gods were actively worshipped, she would have to be at least over a thousand, as Christianity dominated the the last 1700 years I should say, pagan deities went out of style.
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