Batman...

[Set Harth]

Admiral James Kirk wrote:

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Yeah he liked to taunt the cops but Dennis Rader got caught because he was a fucktard who didn't understand computers.

He actually wrote the cops and asked if floppy disks were traceable. The cops responded (via the papers) "No", so he sent them one with more taunting. Naturally they used the metadata on the disk to track his psycho ass down.

Yeah, I saw that program. They look at the file info and it says:

Last Modified By: Dennis

[the G-man]

Christopher wrote:

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Good call on Carrey's part. And I agree, he would've been much more suitable for the Joker than Nicholson was. (Although Robin Williams might've been even better. He can certainly project a more menacing side, more convincingly than Carrey.)

I don't know about that. Carrey turned out to be a very good actor. I think he could have pulled off menacing if given the chance. I mean, just look at this face.

[Trekker4747]

Christopher wrote:

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I imagine a Nolanverse Riddler as more of an organized crime kingpin who runs the rackets like a chess game.

I see that a bit more fitting for a Nolan Verse Penguin.

[sonak]

Trekker4747 wrote:

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I see that a bit more fitting for a Nolan Verse Penguin.

Agreed, although apparently Mr. Nolan is NOT a fan of the Penguin character.

[Admiral James Kirk]

I would say that a Nolanverse Riddler should be like Jiggsaw from the Saw series with his convoluted planning and insane traps but he already did the Jiggsaw thing with The Joker in TDK.

[Trekker4747]

sonak wrote:

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Agreed, although apparently Mr. Nolan is NOT a fan of the Penguin character.

Probably because of the bullshit Burton did with him. You could really make The Penguin in the Nolan Verse a pure evil mobster Kingpin like Tony Soprano mixed with Tony Montana or something.

[Admiral James Kirk]

If he didn't want to do The Penguin as a little, penguin-like fat guy, he could have just made him a mobster who likes to wear tuxedos. It's not like Oswald Cobblepot is Killer Crock or Man-Bat. He wouldn't have shattered Nolan's oh so precious "reality".

[Trekker4747]

Admiral James Kirk wrote:

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If he didn't want to do The Penguin as a little, penguin-like fat guy, he could have just made him a mobster who likes to wear tuxedos. It's not like Oswald Cobblepot is Killer Crock or Man-Bat. He wouldn't have shattered Nolan's oh so precious "reality".

Well that's what The Penguin is supposed to be! He's just an odd-looking, needlessly dapper, mobster kingpin. What Burton did with The Penguin was just beyond absurd. And by "odd looking" I just mean he's short, fat and ugly. Not at all supposed to look like a penguin except in the most vaguest of ways.

[Sci]

If I were doing a Nolan-style Penguin, I'd set him up as this anonymous crime boss, and Cobblepot as this very respected, upper-class scion of a famous, wealthy family. Only gradually would we come to realize that the Penguin and Cobblepot are the same man, and that his family's great wealth has always been backed by a corrupt criminal syndicate with the government in its pocket.

[the G-man]

Trekker4747 wrote:

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Probably because of the bullshit Burton did with him. You could really make The Penguin in the Nolan Verse a pure evil mobster Kingpin like Tony Soprano mixed with Tony Montana or something.

Man, how great a Paul Giamatti/Nolanverse Penguin could have been.

[Admiral_Young]

I think a Nolan verse Penguin and Riddler would be very similar to the versions we saw in Arkham City. I've called the Arkham games a near perfect merging of the Timm'Verse and Nolan'Verse before. Penguin was awesome in that game, and he's been pretty much a manipulating gangster character for a while now. Using the Iceberg Lounge as a front for his operations.

[sonak]

Trekker4747 wrote:

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Probably because of the bullshit Burton did with him. You could really make The Penguin in the Nolan Verse a pure evil mobster Kingpin like Tony Soprano mixed with Tony Montana or something.

But then what's the difference between him and a Sal Maroni from TDK?

He's just an uglier mob boss? Take away the monocle, tuxedo, umbrella, etc. and that's basically what you get, right?

[Donald Draper]

Its not just Danny Devito's version of the Penguin. There is not much complexity to him. Which is why he has often being reinvented with only the name and the parts of his clothes and appearance remaining.

[Trekker4747]

sonak wrote:

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But then what's the difference between him and a Sal Maroni from TDK?

He's just an uglier mob boss? Take away the monocle, tuxedo, umbrella, etc. and that's basically what you get, right?

Well, The Penguin could be made a bit more complex with some deeper motivations. Maroni/Falcone were just regular mob bosses pretty much criminal masterminds. The Penguin could have been made to have darker ambitions to utterly take down and destroy Gotham from within as a bit of revenge for a lifetime of ridicule.

[billcosby]

The version of The Penguin in the game Arkham City is the winner.