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View Poll Results: Prometheus - Poll
A + 16 6.90%
A 27 11.64%
A - 32 13.79%
B + 43 18.53%
B 33 14.22%
B - 21 9.05%
C + 19 8.19%
C 8 3.45%
C - 15 6.47%
D 12 5.17%
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Old June 16 2012, 09:18 PM   #541
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Re: PROMETHEUS - Grade and Discuss

I'm sorry if this is bad form, but I'm going to repost something I said in a different forum:

I almost think that the above views show the real success of the film. This movie has people talking. One of my friends agrees with Sci, but instead of just forgetting about it, she keeps reading reviews and discussions and sending me links.

What is better: make a movie that the masses like/love, then forget about; or make a divisive movie that stays in the public conscious because people need to discuss its merits vs. its shortcomings?

I think Ridley Scott may be grinning like the Cheshire Cat right now...
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Old June 16 2012, 10:09 PM   #542
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As of yesterday, this film's made $89 million stateside (likely to crack $100 million by tonight), already in the $100-110 million range overseas. So it's already made its' $150 million budget back and then some. Rock of Ages and That's My Boy are bombing, and it's another week before Brave hits (leaving Madagascar 3 the only other game in town). So barring some unforeseen incident, Ridley will get his sequel. Hopefully he'll put all the answers in that (with the aid of a better screenwriter) and doesn't try to make it a trilogy.
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Old June 16 2012, 10:30 PM   #543
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actually those numbers aren't that good. They mean it's breaking even. anything over twice the budget is considered a profit
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Old June 16 2012, 10:57 PM   #544
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As of today, 8 days after opening, its at $167 million overall. It will be a financial success, especially after all the ancillary rights are explored.
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Old June 16 2012, 10:59 PM   #545
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What is better: make a movie that the masses like/love, then forget about; or make a divisive movie that stays in the public conscious because people need to discuss its merits vs. its shortcomings?
I would much rather be debating the IDEAS in the movie than poor characterization. THAT is the hallmark of a movie that will last. Look at Blade Runner. It's decisive not because of the ideas or the art but because some people liked it, either they didn't see or agree with certain story telling criticisms, and other people didn't because of poor characterization, poor plotting, etc.

I would much rather discuss Tree of Life, something that took risks, with some interesting moments of success and other spectacular failures...

But this particular movie seemed to be truly risk averse. Honestly, I really doubt we're going to be talking about this movie in ten years.


I think Ridley Scott may be grinning like the Cheshire Cat right now...
Money will do that.
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Old June 16 2012, 11:12 PM   #546
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Warped9 wrote:
The ST-TMP DE is another case of some restored footage and re-editing benefitting a film (although not for everyone).
Wow, Amazon says the director's cut of TMP is 1430 minutes long.

Methinks that's a mistake...
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Old June 16 2012, 11:59 PM   #547
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So we came from the Space Jockeys and the Xenomorphs come from us. That's kinda the opposite of the word ALIEN.

Move over re-imaginings and reboots, we now have re-definitions. C+
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Old June 17 2012, 01:28 AM   #548
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I just remembered something I really liked when I went to see Prometheus.... While we were getting our seats, they were playing the soundtrack to Moon. That was probably one of the things I enjoyed about my trip to see Prometheus.
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Old June 17 2012, 02:16 AM   #549
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So we came from the Space Jockeys and the Xenomorphs come from us. That's kinda the opposite of the word ALIEN.

Move over re-imaginings and reboots, we now have re-definitions. C+
Well, the "story" takes place on a different planet, so it's still unknown where the Xenomorphs in the original Alien came from. Prometheus wasn't entirely clear on the sequence required to produce a Xenomorth - it looked like a multi-stage process - first Holloway was infected by the black goo, then he infected Shaw, then Shaw should've given birth to a space squid, then the squid should've infected some other poor creature and only then the Xenomorph would've been born.
Ah, fuck it. If the filmmakers didn't care, why should I?
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Old June 17 2012, 03:09 AM   #550
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Just got back from watching this movie.

Now i knew it had some ties to the movie Alien, but i didnt realize it would encompass this much of the movie.

I liked the whole search for planet to find the Engineers and maybe meet them or learn their history and why they created us etc.


Saddly the movie boiled down to a freaken robot that poisoned Holloway which ended up knocking up Shaw with an alien squid thing.

Really how did David know any of that would happen unless he read it somewhere.


But i didnt want to see a Aliens movie, i wanted to see a space mission movie to meet the creators.
Ive never really seem any of the Aliens movies except AVP. So dont know much about its history.

O well only cost me 9 bucks, but if they would of cut the aliens part out and went in a different direction this could of been a good movie.
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Old June 17 2012, 04:13 AM   #551
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Really how did David know any of that would happen unless he read it somewhere.
I don't think David did know what would happen. He was more likely improvising compelled by Weyland ordering him to "try harder." What this scene underscores, just as it did in Alien, is that these replicants aren't governed by Asimovian principles.
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Old June 17 2012, 04:15 AM   #552
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Ive never really seem any of the Aliens movies except AVP. So dont know much about its history.
Yeah, you're missing out on some really good films. AVP was trash.
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Old June 17 2012, 05:26 AM   #553
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Really how did David know any of that would happen unless he read it somewhere.
I don't think David did know what would happen. He was more likely improvising compelled by Weyland ordering him to "try harder." What this scene underscores, just as it did in Alien, is that these replicants aren't governed by Asimovian principles.
Which still doesn't explain why they aren't governed by common sense. Releasing an uncontrolled pathogen into the environment of the ship by definition endangers Weyland.
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Old June 17 2012, 05:27 AM   #554
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Really how did David know any of that would happen unless he read it somewhere.
He didn't. He's fueled by his childlike curiosity.


"What will happen if I I stick my black goo covered finger into this guys cup?"

*All hell breaks loose*

David- Ah interesting.
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Old June 17 2012, 05:36 AM   #555
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Set Harth wrote: View Post
Warped9 wrote:
The ST-TMP DE is another case of some restored footage and re-editing benefitting a film (although not for everyone).
Wow, Amazon says the director's cut of TMP is 1430 minutes long.

Methinks that's a mistake...
That's just how long it feels.




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