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Old June 25 2012, 07:28 AM   #46
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Re: Tom Paris - awesome or vastly underused?

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I would not have minded if Tom had gotten more screentime, but as it is, he's one of my favorite Star Trek characters. He never got dull or annoying, and I really enjoyed the dynamic he had with the rest of the cast. I feel like he had chemistry with everybody, and Tom and B'Elanna remain to this day my favorite Trek couple. At least B'Elanna was bitchy because she was half-Klingon. What was Keiko's excuse?
Miles was a great Engineer but he was a dimwit as a husband.
Keiko did have reason to get annoyed with him when she did. Keiko was very mature, Miles acted like a little boy allot. Keiko was raising a child while Miles was playing with toys and video games with Julian. She treated him how he acted.
I think Miles should have been allowed to act however the heck he wanted to without getting flack from his wife, considering how hard he worked. She barely did anything worthwhile.
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Old June 25 2012, 10:08 AM   #47
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What does a botanist do on a starship?

Everytime they passed an unknown planet she had to smell all the flowers.

Wow.

That's a shit load of flowers.
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Old June 26 2012, 09:40 PM   #48
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Just going to leave this here. Of course now I'm horny for Tom Paris again.
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Old June 27 2012, 02:07 AM   #49
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I would not have minded if Tom had gotten more screentime, but as it is, he's one of my favorite Star Trek characters. He never got dull or annoying, and I really enjoyed the dynamic he had with the rest of the cast. I feel like he had chemistry with everybody, and Tom and B'Elanna remain to this day my favorite Trek couple. At least B'Elanna was bitchy because she was half-Klingon. What was Keiko's excuse?
Miles was a great Engineer but he was a dimwit as a husband.
Keiko did have reason to get annoyed with him when she did. Keiko was very mature, Miles acted like a little boy allot. Keiko was raising a child while Miles was playing with toys and video games with Julian. She treated him how he acted.
I think Miles should have been allowed to act however the heck he wanted to without getting flack from his wife, considering how hard he worked. She barely did anything worthwhile.
Use this speech on your future wife and watch her reaction.
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Old June 27 2012, 02:20 AM   #50
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Answers always lay in extremes.

After you have said this to some dozen number of women.

You'll want to hitch your wagon to the one who thumps you the most, or the least.
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Old June 28 2012, 02:47 PM   #51
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My fav character is Tom Paris. I don't think he was underused either, I loved his character and everything he did.
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Old June 29 2012, 06:09 AM   #52
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Tom was okay, but I have never much cared for fictional characters like that in general. I don't like rogues, be they in TV, film, or print. Their snarky and sarcastic attitude does not appeal to me at all.
But he completely failed at that other than his rebellion in 30 Days. He was too boyish and squeaky clean to be a rogue. Sarcasm? A vaguely dry wit now and then was as close as it got. Commentary. But not sarcasm.
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Old June 29 2012, 07:52 AM   #53
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Woah!?

Janeway and the Prime Directive say that she's going to let a duly elected idiot government doom their civilization into factual extinction by maintaining a fantastically bad ecologically irresponsible technology and suddenly Tom is FONZIE because he does what Green Peace does every day in the real world, well at least what they would do if they had nukes.

Who would Green Peace Nuke first?

And what his motivation?

"I like simply messing about in boats".

WTF?

That's Toad.

Toad of Toad Hall.

Women say that they don't want Mister Toads Wild Ride, they want romance, but to be fair, everyone wants Mister Toads Wild Ride.
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Old June 29 2012, 08:09 AM   #54
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It's a yacht.
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Old June 29 2012, 08:14 AM   #55
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The crew of the Sea Shepard are rogues. Ideology driven rogues like Paris managed to pony up into for 30 Days. His ONE dalliance in roguedom.

Do you know how they wash their clothes on the Sea Shepherd when they are on their long, cold, fishy voyages saving stuff? They put all their clothes in a net and drag them behind the boat until they are cleaner than they were before they went into the net. So they are a lot more rogueish in scent then Tom Paris and his replicated uniforms. Do you still smell of salt after leaving a Horatio Hornblower holonovel?
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Old June 29 2012, 08:37 AM   #56
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Cue Generations?

I'm just trying to picture how Star Trek VII would have been nailed down if the command staff didn't have time to change out of their playwear till after the final credits rolled?
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Old June 29 2012, 08:55 AM   #57
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Cue Generations?

I'm just trying to picture how Star Trek VII would have been nailed down if the command staff didn't have time to change out of their playwear till after the final credits rolled?
It would have been horribly embarrassing.



I would have DIED of embarrassment.

It would have knocked ST:V right off its camp pedestal.
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Old June 29 2012, 08:59 AM   #58
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I've had some ideas that started with Marina Sirtis dressed like that...
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Did she make you walk the plank?
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Did she make you walk the plank?
No, it's always too short...
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