TP: Plagues of Night by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!) - Page 3

Sci · May 22 2012, 07:01 PM

Shon T'Hara wrote:

Sci wrote:

Well, no. RDM said that his intention was for the second Defiant to be be registered NX-74205-A. I see no reason to get rid of the NX -- Mission: Gamma made it clear that the Defiant is still being used as a testbed for new technologies, and frankly I like the idea that the lead ship of every class always retains the NX registry. I'd just like to see her become the NX-74205-A.

Except the Excelsior switched to NCC in TUC.

I'm aware. But, again, Mission: Gamma already established that the Defiant is still being used as a testbed for new technologies -- so the NX registry is still appropriate.

DS9forever · May 22 2012, 11:00 PM

Simon and Schuster have made Plagues of Night searchable:

http://books.simonandschuster.com/St.../9781451649550

WarsTrek1993 · May 23 2012, 04:45 AM

I see an "outstanding" rating now. Have people been finding it as of late?

Patrick O'Brien · May 23 2012, 08:57 AM

Looking forward to this DRGIII title

Frontier · May 23 2012, 09:50 AM

I just don't think the destruction of DS9 can be justified.

Bad enough it's been neglected and forgotten about for so many years after being the source of the relaunch itself, and so successfully I might add.

To return to her only to then totally take her away forever?

No, I can't tolerate such. It's too much.

I feel like Picard in First Contact. They invade our space, and we fall back. Assimilated entire worlds, and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here. This far, no further!

They've killed Janeway, they've neglected DS9, they've made Ezri Dax a Captain, they took a pretty big steaming one on Sisko's character in the last novel to feature him (which I'm hoping they repair/retcon) - but to destroy such a key piece of AQ real estate, the very setting and heart of one of the series?

No, too far.

If it's done, so am I. May not count for a whole hill of beans, but... it's where I draw the line.

If the only 24th century Trek we're ever going to get again is to be done at the cost of so much? It's not worth it. It's too great a sacrifice.

WarsTrek1993 · May 23 2012, 05:06 PM

"They kill off Janeway, they screw with Sisko's character, they skip four years of DS9 without explaining anything, and now people are talking about destroying DS9. Not again. The line must be drawn HEYAAAHH, this far, no farther!"

chris_masters5 · May 23 2012, 05:14 PM

Just got my copy today - I'm only 2/3rds through the DS9 relaunch, so it'll take me a while to get to this but just wanted to make a comment.

I just flicked to the last page and read the last line: OMG!

shanejayell · May 23 2012, 06:32 PM

Chris, such a tease. *lol* I'll be looking for a copy today/tomorrow. Hope it's there....

Sci · May 23 2012, 07:15 PM

Frontier wrote:

I just don't think the destruction of DS9 can be justified.

Bad enough it's been neglected and forgotten about for so many years after being the source of the relaunch itself, and so successfully I might add.

To return to her only to then totally take her away forever?

No, I can't tolerate such. It's too much.

I feel like Picard in First Contact. They invade our space, and we fall back. Assimilated entire worlds, and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here. This far, no further!

They've killed Janeway, they've neglected DS9, they've made Ezri Dax a Captain, they took a pretty big steaming one on Sisko's character in the last novel to feature him (which I'm hoping they repair/retcon) - but to destroy such a key piece of AQ real estate, the very setting and heart of one of the series?

No, too far.

If it's done, so am I. May not count for a whole hill of beans, but... it's where I draw the line.

If the only 24th century Trek we're ever going to get again is to be done at the cost of so much? It's not worth it. It's too great a sacrifice.

Will you make them pay for what they've done?

Shon T'Hara · May 23 2012, 07:26 PM

chris_masters5 wrote:

I just flicked to the last page and read the last line: OMG!

Don't be such a tease. For those interested.

Ronald Held · May 23 2012, 07:37 PM

How are people so fortunate to get theirs so early? I have not looked to try to order the kindle version yet.

chris_masters5 · May 23 2012, 08:09 PM

I pre-ordered it on Amazon weeks ago - funny thing is I've just checked on Amazon and it still says available for pre-order - released on 21 June. ??

JD · May 23 2012, 11:45 PM

Shon T'Hara wrote:

chris_masters5 wrote:

I just flicked to the last page and read the last line: OMG!

Don't be such a tease. For those interested.

That was not what I expected.
I just read the excerpt on the very first page of the book, and it reveals that the book does in fact continue Ben Sisko's story from Rough Beasts of Empire.

rfmcdpei · May 24 2012, 02:29 AM

Frontier wrote:

I just don't think the destruction of DS9 can be justified.

[. . .]

They've killed Janeway, they've neglected DS9, they've made Ezri Dax a Captain, they took a pretty big steaming one on Sisko's character in the last novel to feature him (which I'm hoping they repair/retcon) - but to destroy such a key piece of AQ real estate, the very setting and heart of one of the series?

Me, while I'd have liked more DS9-specific content in recent years, I found Janeway's death believable, I actually find Ezri Dax a different kind of awesome from Jadzia Dax, and don't see any improbabilities with Sisko's development in RBOE (bad things happen to characters we like, sometimes because of their own choices).

I can't wait to get my copy. Friday?

Sjaddix · May 24 2012, 06:47 AM

Yeah bad things happen to characters. Although in Sisko's case its special since what occurs is precisely what Avery Books argued against and the Show Writers changed a scene because of his issues with another Black Man dumping his Family. which no matter how much you want to sugar coat it is what occurs. Not even talking about the execution of said dumping. Still I am sure if Sisko shows up we will get plenty of acrimonious debate over character development.

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May 22 2012, 11:00 PM	#32
DS9forever Captain	Re: Typhon Pact: Plagues of Night by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!) Simon and Schuster have made Plagues of Night searchable: http://books.simonandschuster.com/St.../9781451649550

May 23 2012, 04:45 AM	#33
WarsTrek1993 Captain Location: The Final Frontier, TX	Re: Typhon Pact: Plagues of Night by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!) I see an "outstanding" rating now. Have people been finding it as of late?

May 23 2012, 08:57 AM	#34
Patrick O'Brien Captain Location: Brooklyn NY	Re: Typhon Pact: Plagues of Night by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!) Looking forward to this DRGIII title __________________ The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe. -Dr. McCoy, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

May 23 2012, 09:50 AM	#35
Frontier Vice Admiral Location: Fifth Circle of Hell, IE: Pennsylvania	Re: Typhon Pact: Plagues of Night by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!) I just don't think the destruction of DS9 can be justified. Bad enough it's been neglected and forgotten about for so many years after being the source of the relaunch itself, and so successfully I might add. To return to her only to then totally take her away forever? No, I can't tolerate such. It's too much. I feel like Picard in First Contact. They invade our space, and we fall back. Assimilated entire worlds, and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here. This far, no further! They've killed Janeway, they've neglected DS9, they've made Ezri Dax a Captain, they took a pretty big steaming one on Sisko's character in the last novel to feature him (which I'm hoping they repair/retcon) - but to destroy such a key piece of AQ real estate, the very setting and heart of one of the series? No, too far. If it's done, so am I. May not count for a whole hill of beans, but... it's where I draw the line. If the only 24th century Trek we're ever going to get again is to be done at the cost of so much? It's not worth it. It's too great a sacrifice. __________________ Me on Tumblr Me on Twitter

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May 23 2012, 05:06 PM	#36
WarsTrek1993 Captain Location: The Final Frontier, TX	Re: Typhon Pact: Plagues of Night by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!) "They kill off Janeway, they screw with Sisko's character, they skip four years of DS9 without explaining anything, and now people are talking about destroying DS9. Not again. The line must be drawn HEYAAAHH, this far, no farther!"

May 23 2012, 05:14 PM	#37
chris_masters5 Lieutenant Junior Grade Location: Manchester, England	Re: Typhon Pact: Plagues of Night by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!) Just got my copy today - I'm only 2/3rds through the DS9 relaunch, so it'll take me a while to get to this but just wanted to make a comment. I just flicked to the last page and read the last line: OMG!

May 23 2012, 06:32 PM	#38
shanejayell Captain Location: BC, Canada	Re: Typhon Pact: Plagues of Night by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!) Chris, such a tease. lol I'll be looking for a copy today/tomorrow. Hope it's there.... __________________ Avatar: Priss Asagiri, Bubblegum Crisis

May 23 2012, 07:37 PM	#41
Ronald Held Rear Admiral Location: On the USS Sovereign	Re: Typhon Pact: Plagues of Night by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!) How are people so fortunate to get theirs so early? I have not looked to try to order the kindle version yet.

May 23 2012, 08:09 PM	#42
chris_masters5 Lieutenant Junior Grade Location: Manchester, England	Re: Typhon Pact: Plagues of Night by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!) I pre-ordered it on Amazon weeks ago - funny thing is I've just checked on Amazon and it still says available for pre-order - released on 21 June. ??

May 24 2012, 06:47 AM	#45
Sjaddix Lieutenant Commander	Re: Typhon Pact: Plagues of Night by DRGIII Review Thread (Spoilers!) Yeah bad things happen to characters. Although in Sisko's case its special since what occurs is precisely what Avery Books argued against and the Show Writers changed a scene because of his issues with another Black Man dumping his Family. which no matter how much you want to sugar coat it is what occurs. Not even talking about the execution of said dumping. Still I am sure if Sisko shows up we will get plenty of acrimonious debate over character development.