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Old May 24 2012, 04:47 PM   #31
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Re: Slipstream to Andromeda

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So I did some calculations based on numbers provided by Kirsten Beyer... at slipstream velocity, it would only take Voyager two months to reach the Andromeda Galaxy.

I wonder how long it'll take for us to see a Voyager novel set in another galaxy.
Slipstream would be interesting with a 24th century federation going to the Andromeda Galaxy or others. There is a old saying, "you cannot put the band back together again." The idea to have Voyager and her crew all going back into space is a non-starter.
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Old May 24 2012, 05:36 PM   #32
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Re: Slipstream to Andromeda

The web series Star Trek: Odyssey portrays a starship with a (temporarily) working slipstream drive exploring Andromeda.

Slipstream works in that case due to Omega particle research, as established in its parent show, Star Trek: Hidden Frontier.
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Old May 24 2012, 05:40 PM   #33
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Re: Slipstream to Andromeda

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So I did some calculations based on numbers provided by Kirsten Beyer... at slipstream velocity, it would only take Voyager two months to reach the Andromeda Galaxy.

I wonder how long it'll take for us to see a Voyager novel set in another galaxy.
Slipstream would be interesting with a 24th century federation going to the Andromeda Galaxy or others. There is a old saying, "you cannot put the band back together again." The idea to have Voyager and her crew all going back into space is a non-starter.
A pretty good non-starter, considering Beyer's now on her 4th Voyager novel.
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Old May 25 2012, 05:01 PM   #34
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Re: Slipstream to Andromeda

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So I did some calculations based on numbers provided by Kirsten Beyer... at slipstream velocity, it would only take Voyager two months to reach the Andromeda Galaxy.

I wonder how long it'll take for us to see a Voyager novel set in another galaxy.
Slipstream would be interesting with a 24th century federation going to the Andromeda Galaxy or others. There is a old saying, "you cannot put the band back together again." The idea to have Voyager and her crew all going back into space is a non-starter.
A pretty good non-starter, considering Beyer's now on her 4th Voyager novel.
How can you really have a post return to Earth Voyager anything? The reason they came back to Earth was because they wanted to see and do other stuff other then being with each other 24/7. When the navy comes back from sea, the crew do not say to each other. Screw it, we are sick of being back home. Lets go above Alaska and never come back.
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Old May 25 2012, 06:17 PM   #35
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Re: Slipstream to Andromeda

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Slipstream would be interesting with a 24th century federation going to the Andromeda Galaxy or others. There is a old saying, "you cannot put the band back together again." The idea to have Voyager and her crew all going back into space is a non-starter.
A pretty good non-starter, considering Beyer's now on her 4th Voyager novel.
How can you really have a post return to Earth Voyager anything? The reason they came back to Earth was because they wanted to see and do other stuff other then being with each other 24/7. When the navy comes back from sea, the crew do not say to each other. Screw it, we are sick of being back home. Lets go above Alaska and never come back.
Which they did for a while. But after the massive Borg attack which decimated the Federation was ended, it became necessary to verify that they were gone for good. A slipstream-equipped Voyager was the logical choice to lead a fleet back to the Delta Quadrant to find out.

Not with exactly the same crew, nor even the same captain. But with most of the major players involved one way or another.
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Old May 25 2012, 07:03 PM   #36
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^^^
And it's also not like the first time the Voyager was in the Delta Quadrant. The circumstances are many times better now. She's spearheading a fleet of fellow Federation starships there with a means to return home fairly quickly, if necessary.
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Old May 25 2012, 09:32 PM   #37
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Re: Slipstream to Andromeda

I don't understand how the federation has the resources to colonise, well, has the great expectations to boldy go forth and mark out virgin territory with such zeal, on so vast a scale when in truth after the trillions dead in the Dominion war and the trillions dead in some novelised borg invasion, even the maxim "expand or die", should cover that expansion for the next ten to 20 years should be the federation just recovering old ground by getting a whip behind the breeders with tax exemptions and other enthusiasms to urge common folk to generate the largest imaginable families.

Unless there's a fire sale on the devastated worlds?

It could be easier to start over else where fresh than rebuild?

So they got all these worlds where no one wants to live because most of their families still in parts on the surface, or there was some awesomely hideous ecoweapon that's...

Honestly, if people don't or can't live on these places, that means it's time to strip mine the shit out of them, which in a morally objective tally book might come out as a win for the federation despite the gross loss of sentient life.
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Old May 25 2012, 10:16 PM   #38
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When the Federation is a mere three weeks away at QS speed, and there are 6 ships backing you up.... Voyager going back to the DQ suddeny sounds a lot less outrageous.
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Old May 25 2012, 10:35 PM   #39
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You know until, the Hirogen take out one of those ships, adapt the technology and invade the federation.

Or the Voth notice the new massing human pestilence running afoul of their canon and dogma.

Can you imagine what god would do to an LDS doorknocker leaning on the buzzer to the pearly gates?
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Old June 2 2012, 06:18 PM   #40
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Except that in the case of Hirogen, their technology is a bit less likely to advance so much in a short period of time seeing how they are cut off from one another and one of those ships accompanying Voyager would probably be a match for a few of theirs (Voyager itself was able to take out 2 heavy Hirogen ships by season 7 after all those modifications whereas the ships phasers were ineffective beforehand).

As for the Voth... yeah, those are a bit of a challenge, but question remains whether things would remain constant for them too.
The Borg were seen with some assimilated Voth, so its entirely possible the latter suffered some losses which could be attributed to deaths of some leaders who were enforcing their old-standing doctrine, and with them out of the way...
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