The Father (Mickey from Doctor Who) [SPOILERS]

foreverton · May 16 2013, 07:21 PM

I'm a bit confused by his motivation to kill himself in the attack on the archive/weapons research lab in London. After his daughter just showed signs of getting better thanks to Harrison's blood, why would he be so eager to kill himself? Was that an unspoken part of the deal...a cure in exchange for him carrying out the attack?

BigMovieGeek · May 16 2013, 07:24 PM

Yes it was part of the deal. If you recall, Harrison gave Mickey a sample of his blood and the detonation device in the same container.

WarpFactorZ · May 16 2013, 07:43 PM

BigMovieGeek wrote:

Yes it was part of the deal. If you recall, Harrison gave Mickey a sample of his blood and the detonation device in the same container.

We can beam a man to Qo'nos, but we can't beam a tiny explosive into a library?

MacLeod · May 16 2013, 07:46 PM

It might be shielded against transporters.

BigMovieGeek · May 16 2013, 08:00 PM

I'm sure if he had beamed out, Harrison would have found out and hunted him down.

Awesome Possum · May 16 2013, 08:35 PM

Didn't Marcus say that they got a message from him revealing that it was Harrison? Maybe he let himself die because he feared what would happen to him if he didn't die in the explosion. I think TOS mentioned that they still have the death penalty for certain crimes.

MacLeod · May 16 2013, 08:42 PM

Starfllet General Order 7, TOS "The Menagerie" mentiones that violation carries the death peanlty the only order which does.

Though I believe some Member words had the death penaltyy TOS "The Cloudminders".

Phily B · May 16 2013, 08:44 PM

He did send the message to Marcus about Harrison before blowing himself up, I think he was probably scared that if he didn't do what he was told then Harrison would kill him and his family.

lawman · May 17 2013, 03:56 PM

It's also possible that Harrison simply lied to him about how quickly the explosive would react, and he thought that he would have time to get clear of the area.

Admiral Buzzkill · May 17 2013, 03:59 PM

It's also possible that he felt such enormous shame about what he was going to do that he chose to die rather than live with the consequences. That happens.

daveyNY · May 17 2013, 06:25 PM

I knew I knew him...

Didn't click though till I read this threads title.

Kinda neat... another Dr. Who "Crossover".

<chuckle>

Flake · May 17 2013, 08:18 PM

He received the blood and the ring at the same time and administered it to his daughter, he also saw her recovering almost instantly before the blood even went into her system (it was still in the water).

THEN he goes and kills himself instead of telling the authorities.

I can't explain it!

(I can explain it, its a Kurtzman Orci script!)

Cartoonist · May 17 2013, 08:30 PM

WarpFactorZ wrote:

BigMovieGeek wrote:

Yes it was part of the deal. If you recall, Harrison gave Mickey a sample of his blood and the detonation device in the same container.

We can beam a man to Qo'nos, but we can't beam a tiny explosive into a library?

It wasn't really a library, it was Section 31. I'm sure they had transport inhibitors, as others have already said.

Cartoonist · May 17 2013, 08:31 PM

Flake wrote:

He received the blood and the ring at the same time and administered it to his daughter, he also saw her recovering almost instantly before the blood even went into her system (it was still in the water).

THEN he goes and kills himself instead of telling the authorities.

I can't explain it!

(I can explain it, its a Kurtzman Orci script!)

I can explain it: if he didn't fulfill his end of the deal, Khan could've just as easily come back and killed his daughter (and I'm sure Mickey knew that).

May 16 2013, 07:21 PM	#1
foreverton Ensign	The Father (Mickey from Doctor Who) [SPOILERS] I'm a bit confused by his motivation to kill himself in the attack on the archive/weapons research lab in London. After his daughter just showed signs of getting better thanks to Harrison's blood, why would he be so eager to kill himself? Was that an unspoken part of the deal...a cure in exchange for him carrying out the attack?

May 16 2013, 07:24 PM	#2
BigMovieGeek Commander Location: England	Re: The Father (Mickey from Doctor Who) [SPOILERS] Yes it was part of the deal. If you recall, Harrison gave Mickey a sample of his blood and the detonation device in the same container.

May 16 2013, 07:46 PM	#4
MacLeod Vice Admiral Location: Great Britain	Re: The Father (Mickey from Doctor Who) [SPOILERS] It might be shielded against transporters. __________________ On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.

May 16 2013, 08:00 PM	#5
BigMovieGeek Commander Location: England	Re: The Father (Mickey from Doctor Who) [SPOILERS] I'm sure if he had beamed out, Harrison would have found out and hunted him down.

May 16 2013, 08:35 PM	#6
Awesome Possum Herald of the Ponies Location: Jewel HQ	Re: The Father (Mickey from Doctor Who) [SPOILERS] Didn't Marcus say that they got a message from him revealing that it was Harrison? Maybe he let himself die because he feared what would happen to him if he didn't die in the explosion. I think TOS mentioned that they still have the death penalty for certain crimes. __________________ I am at heart a propagandist, a tremendous hater, a tiresome nag, complacently positive that there is no human problem which could not be solved if people would simply do as I advise. -Gore Vidal

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May 16 2013, 08:42 PM	#7
MacLeod Vice Admiral Location: Great Britain	Re: The Father (Mickey from Doctor Who) [SPOILERS] Starfllet General Order 7, TOS "The Menagerie" mentiones that violation carries the death peanlty the only order which does. Though I believe some Member words had the death penaltyy TOS "The Cloudminders". __________________ On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.

May 16 2013, 08:44 PM	#8
Phily B Fleet Captain Location: United Kingdom	Re: The Father (Mickey from Doctor Who) [SPOILERS] He did send the message to Marcus about Harrison before blowing himself up, I think he was probably scared that if he didn't do what he was told then Harrison would kill him and his family.

May 17 2013, 03:56 PM	#9
lawman Commander	Re: The Father (Mickey from Doctor Who) [SPOILERS] It's also possible that Harrison simply lied to him about how quickly the explosive would react, and he thought that he would have time to get clear of the area. __________________ Blogging on pop culture and politics at SmartRemarks

May 17 2013, 03:59 PM	#10
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: The Father (Mickey from Doctor Who) [SPOILERS] It's also possible that he felt such enormous shame about what he was going to do that he chose to die rather than live with the consequences. That happens. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

May 17 2013, 06:25 PM	#11
daveyNY Commodore Location: 42* 47` / 73* 54`	Re: The Father (Mickey from Doctor Who) [SPOILERS] I knew I knew him... Didn't click though till I read this threads title. Kinda neat... another Dr. Who "Crossover". <chuckle> __________________ I must go out in2 space again for the call of adventure cries. With a steady hand & robust crew I'll take her forth with pride. I must go out in2 space again to a vagabond Captains life. Where comets play & galaxies sway like whirlwinds in the night.

May 17 2013, 08:18 PM	#12
Flake Commodore Location: Manchester, UK	Re: The Father (Mickey from Doctor Who) [SPOILERS] He received the blood and the ring at the same time and administered it to his daughter, he also saw her recovering almost instantly before the blood even went into her system (it was still in the water). THEN he goes and kills himself instead of telling the authorities. I can't explain it! (I can explain it, its a Kurtzman Orci script!)