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Old May 17 2012, 04:00 AM   #31
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Re: Law & Order:SVU-Has It Gone Down The Crapper?

Spoiler about the season finale (next week):

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Old May 24 2012, 11:14 PM   #32
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Re: Law & Order:SVU-Has It Gone Down The Crapper?

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Does anyone know if there have been any confirmed departures from the show? AFAIK, the only characters who are definitely returning are Fin and Benson since their actors have signed contracts for next year. And I highly doubt they'll let the newbies (Amaro and Rollins) go, they're the future of the show.

Richard Belzer may or may not be back. Munch didn't appear in the finale, nobody even mentioned his name...
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Old May 24 2012, 11:52 PM   #33
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This show has been around for 14 years. I don't think it has a future.
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Old May 24 2012, 11:57 PM   #34
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Re: Law & Order:SVU-Has It Gone Down The Crapper?

^ It's always been the highest rated of any L&O show. I don't know how it's fared now that it's the only L&O-verse show out there, but it has been renewed for a 14th season, so obviously it does have some kind of future.
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Old May 25 2012, 12:33 AM   #35
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^ It's always been the highest rated of any L&O show. I don't know how it's fared now that it's the only L&O-verse show out there
Your first point really isn't true; in terms of overall viewership, SVU peaked at averaging about 14.8 million viewers per episode in Season 4, while Vanilla beat those numbers from Season 10 through Season 14.

Nowadays? SVU's ratings are abysmal. Season 13 averaged fewer viewers than the terrible numbers that got Los Angeles canceled -- I believe the season averaged something like 6.8 million viewers, with an 18 - 49 rating of 1.9.
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Old May 25 2012, 03:57 AM   #36
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A little more detail on ratings...
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[...] SVU was nbc's highest rated scripted drama in May and highest rated finale.
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Old May 25 2012, 02:52 PM   #37
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was not a bad show overall................keeps the interest ticking over
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Old May 25 2012, 05:06 PM   #38
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Re: Law & Order:SVU-Has It Gone Down The Crapper?

So what did everyone think of the season finale? I grew very weary, very fast, of the "powerful political connections" angle, but other than that, it was OK. I hope none of the characters leave.
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Old May 25 2012, 06:07 PM   #39
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looks like creegan is on his way out.......shame always liked his character
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Old May 25 2012, 06:23 PM   #40
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So what did everyone think of the season finale? I grew very weary, very fast, of the "powerful political connections" angle, but other than that, it was OK. I hope none of the characters leave.
It feels like all of the writers from Seasons 6 - 12 were locked in a cellar, and they asked to write just one scene, the new writers acquiesced, and then that happened.

Honestly, that final scene read like a setup to write out Cragen in the Season 14 premiere. Hargitay was supposed to move to a part-time role after the first half of Season 13, but it was decided to keep Benson as a lead after reactions to Amaro and Rollins were rather cool. There have been so many subplots about the administration threatening to yank Cragen's command that this really feels like the payoff -- Cragen is fired (or, more likely, retires), Benson becomes the new unit captain.
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Old May 25 2012, 08:04 PM   #41
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Re: Law & Order:SVU-Has It Gone Down The Crapper?

I'm not familiar with actual NYPD policy, but...

Can a cop go straight from Detective to a higher rank like Lieutenant without becoming a Sergeant first? I always thought that it was like the military, in that you would have to progress up through every rank and not 'skip' any.

As for Benson: I'm sure the writers could come up with an excuse to place her at a higher rank. I think she'd do all right in running the squad, but would probably not want to be stuck behind a desk all the time. This is why, for example, Jack Webb ignored Joe Friday's promotion to Lieutenant (which happened at the end of the original Dragnet series) when Dragnet '67 started: the reasoning was that few lieutenants get out into the field.
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Old May 26 2012, 03:14 AM   #42
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I stopped watching ever since they put Munch and Fin in the crapper and tried to go with that Chester Lake crap. The revolving door of cast and same old stories was just totally uncompelling anymore. Every time I think of it, it just makes me want to watch Homicide.

They really should have put this one to bed on a high note at least a few years ago, if not sooner. Now it is just going to fizzle on as they keep swapping detectives and DAs in hopes of the next big pairing. Sigh.
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Old May 27 2012, 03:06 AM   #43
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Re: Law & Order:SVU-Has It Gone Down The Crapper?

More word from Warren Leight: He says that the 14th season premiere may be a two-parter. Also, the (surviving) guest stars from this season finale, up to and including Dean Winters, will all be back. In fact, some of the deleted scenes from said finale might actually be part of said premiere.

So I doubt we've seen the last of Cragen...

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Old May 27 2012, 07:43 PM   #44
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Jumping in late, but I wanted to say that if SVU went down the crapper, it happened back in season 2, with Neal Baer's takeover. Now he's gone and they replaced him with Warren Leight, who managed to send Criminal Intent down the crapper.

If they get Rene Balcer to take over SVU, maybe I'll start watching it. Until then, I have my TOS and CI DVDs. And UK's been pretty good too.
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Old May 27 2012, 10:20 PM   #45
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SVU returned to top form this season. Except for a couple of episodes, I was very impressed with this season. Not having Benson and Stabler rehash the same old things were great. Kelli Giddish was the only good thing about Chase, so I'm glad she gets a chance to shine here. Danny Pino was weird to watch on SVU at first, but the more I watched, the more I forgot his Cold Case character. Hell, I even forgot B.D. Wong wasn't a regular until he showed back up. My favorite episode was probably Father Dearest. That one was just about as sick and twisted as you can get on network TV.
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