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Old September 19 2013, 11:22 AM   #361
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Mmmm, I see what you mean. On the other hand, I suppose one could say it's only sensible when one is stuck to ask for help and other input.
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Old September 19 2013, 03:20 PM   #362
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It should also be remembered that Whedon is a writer/director. Mr. Taylor is not. If this was a writing problem it makes perfect sense to ask for help.
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Old September 19 2013, 04:03 PM   #363
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It's also not unusual to have a writer write a scene - more in television than movies, but still. It's no shame to collaborate and I'd rather someone be praised for making the scene work better rather than derided (or else, they might not seek help to make the scene work next time).
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Old September 19 2013, 04:16 PM   #364
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Yea, as a Director, it's your job to realize a scene isn't going to work, and to fix it so it does work.

How many times have we seen Directors blasted on this board, because they didn't fix a scene(s) that didn't work?
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Old September 19 2013, 04:58 PM   #365
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Old September 19 2013, 06:14 PM   #366
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So it seems Joss Whedon rewrote 3 scenes for this film:

http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2013/0...em-scenes.html
Maybe it's just me, but it sounds kind of bad to hear the director say he couldn't figure out how to make his own movie work.
Honestly, there's nothing worrisome there. That's just par for the course. Very few movies (or books) are perfect from conception; part of the process is trying something out, deciding it's not quite working, and working with your collaborators to find a solution. Script doctors and reshoots and all that are not necessarily ill omens; it simply means that your work-in-progress is just that.

(I'm currently slaving away on the third draft of a book, and I'm fully aware of what parts are fine and which still need work. And so is my editor!)
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Old September 19 2013, 07:17 PM   #367
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In some ways, the team that Marvel assembled (ahem) to make these movies are treating it more like a TV series. Writers and directors for shows with episodes heavy in continuity will work together in order to make it as cohesive as possible. Coming from Game of Thrones, Alan Taylor would have been used to being able to help and ask for help in directing his episodes.
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Old September 19 2013, 07:51 PM   #368
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hasn't Whedon done quite a few script fixes?
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Old September 19 2013, 08:12 PM   #369
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hasn't Whedon done quite a few script fixes?
Yes. SPEED and TOY STORY come immediately to mind. At one point, he was quite in demand as a script doctor. (As was Carrie Fisher, I believe.)
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Old September 20 2013, 01:39 AM   #370
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It's also not unusual to have a writer write a scene - more in television than movies, but still. It's no shame to collaborate and I'd rather someone be praised for making the scene work better rather than derided (or else, they might not seek help to make the scene work next time).
Isn't this also part of what Whedon was brought on for in the first pace? To kind of oversee all of the movies, to help keep things consistent in both quality and story.

If you've got someone like Joss Whedon at your disposal you'd be a fool not to ask for his help if you feel you need it.
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Old September 20 2013, 05:25 AM   #371
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Yeah, I think that's fair.

I also think it shows the director has good judgment about what works and what doesn't work. The fact that he wanted help on those scenes but not others indicates he thinks the others are fine the way they are.
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Old September 21 2013, 07:40 AM   #372
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Honestly, in a situation like that I'd almost be tempted to screw some of it up on purpose just so I could work closer with Joss Whedon.
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Old September 21 2013, 04:11 PM   #373
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I don't think the studio would appreciate it. After all, he isn't working for free.
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Old September 22 2013, 05:50 AM   #374
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Good point.
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