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Old May 1 2012, 12:28 AM   #1
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Voyager's starting position

I have often wondered how far Voyager was from the Gamma Quadrant end of the Bajoran wormhole when it was flung. Would it have not been a shorter journey to set a course for that rather than directly to Earth?
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Old May 1 2012, 12:37 AM   #2
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Especially since they knew about the Bajoran wormhole...
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Old May 1 2012, 01:55 AM   #3
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^Have you watched DS9? They tried to blow it up several times, mined it once and the prophets closed it for a while. Janeway couldn't afford to waste time going out of the way when the wormhole might not be passable when they enter the Idran System....

Earth isn't going anywhere....
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Old May 1 2012, 02:07 AM   #4
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Someone here has a most excellent 'map' of the galaxy. It shows that the gamma quadrant end of the wormhole was almost as far away from Voyager as Earth was
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Old May 1 2012, 03:09 AM   #5
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^^^

I Think I have the same one but it doesn't have a scale. I was just wondering if anyone knew the exact distance from Voyagers starting position to the mouth of the wormhole.
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Old May 1 2012, 07:44 AM   #6
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I think it actually would have been a slightly longer trip (by a few thousand light-years). The Voyager would have had to cross a great deal of both the Delta and Gamma Quadrants to reach the wormhole near Idran, IMO.
http://images.wikia.com/borgcollecti...-quadrants.jpg
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Old May 1 2012, 11:03 AM   #7
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Re: Voyager's starting position

Finn wrote: View Post
Earth isn't going anywhere....
Unless the Xindi, the Borg, crazy Romulan miners, ancient Earth probes, whale loving alien probes, giant space amoebas and crazy Picard clones get their way.


Stardate 956788.7. After 50 years, Voyager is home.....


*cloud of rubble on viewscreen*

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Old May 1 2012, 11:59 AM   #8
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Stardate 956788.7. After 50 years, Voyager is home.....


*cloud of rubble on viewscreen*

OLD JANEWAY: "Fuuuuuuuuuu--!"
Wouldn't have been much worse than Endgame...
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Old May 1 2012, 12:39 PM   #9
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KingDaniel wrote: View Post
Finn wrote: View Post
Earth isn't going anywhere....
Unless the Xindi, the Borg, crazy Romulan miners, ancient Earth probes, whale loving alien probes, giant space amoebas and crazy Picard clones get their way.


Stardate 956788.7. After 50 years, Voyager is home.....


*cloud of rubble on viewscreen*

OLD JANEWAY: "Fuuuuuuuuuu--!"
But the star systems they are familiar with would be still there. They prolly have relatives and friends on other worlds in or around the Federation. Even if Earth explodes, they would still have people to get back to.
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Old May 1 2012, 12:45 PM   #10
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Re: Voyager's starting position

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crazy Romulan miners,
Careful! That kinda talk will get You_Will_Fail all angry!
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Old May 1 2012, 01:40 PM   #11
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^Have you watched DS9? They tried to blow it up several times, mined it once and the prophets closed it for a while. Janeway couldn't afford to waste time going out of the way when the wormhole might not be passable when they enter the Idran System....

Earth isn't going anywhere....
True, but Janeway did not know any of that. Voyager should have only known of 2 seasons worth of DS9's continuity.

Still, it make more sense heading to Earth than to a wormhole that may, or may not, still be there. Also, i think it would logically make more sense to head to Earth and cover the Delta Quadrant and some of the Alpha Quadrant, because at least you would be traveling in known space when you hit the Alpha Quadrant vs. traversing both the Delta and Gamma Quadrants which are both unknown.
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Old May 2 2012, 01:23 PM   #12
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Voyager should have only known of 2 seasons worth of DS9's continuity.
First contact with the Dominion was established in 2170, about a year before Voyager's launch in 2171. If nothing else, they already knew one thing - there's a huge, possibly lethal but definitely not all that friendly player in charge of the Gamma Quadrant, which may or may not still have the wormhole.

The direct approach was ultimately safer.
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Old May 2 2012, 01:49 PM   #13
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Re: Voyager's starting position

Finn wrote: View Post
KingDaniel wrote: View Post
Finn wrote: View Post
Earth isn't going anywhere....
Unless the Xindi, the Borg, crazy Romulan miners, ancient Earth probes, whale loving alien probes, giant space amoebas and crazy Picard clones get their way.


Stardate 956788.7. After 50 years, Voyager is home.....


*cloud of rubble on viewscreen*

OLD JANEWAY: "Fuuuuuuuuuu--!"
But the star systems they are familiar with would be still there. They prolly have relatives and friends on other worlds in or around the Federation. Even if Earth explodes, they would still have people to get back to.
In theory... Only if Earth explodes, is most of Janeways crew going to not be frogmarched back into a Gulag for consecutive life sentences because of terrorism and genocide charges.
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Old May 2 2012, 05:49 PM   #14
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Re: Voyager's starting position

From the map I saw, it did look like a shorter trip into Dominion Space and then through the wormhole by a little, but, that would entail having to go between the arms, so that wouldn't have practical, I don't think. If they went down the arm, and then back up, it would've been a longer trip.
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Old May 2 2012, 06:18 PM   #15
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Here are some maps.

http://www.loony-archivist.com/lowerdecks/maps.html

I heard that Berman has been seen throwing things at his Q and A audience screaming "Equidistant! Equidistant! It's the same same same! SHUT-UP SHUT-UP!" more than once.
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