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Old May 1 2012, 08:32 PM   #1
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Rambo 5 - Last Stand

After the modest success of Rambo 4 proved the character still has some theatrical bite stories went from Mexico to more sci-fi based(Savage Hunt idea) super soldier warfare back in the Northwest to now once again finally moving forward with the Mexico based storyline. Current rumored working title of Last Stand.
ďI[Stallone] like the whole Mexican situation, whatís going on down there. So Iím working on a formula for it right now.Ē

Asked if there's still more of John Rambo's story to tell, the actor says ďI know there is. Itís one thing where you lay down the final culmination of your life where you can articulate it, but also act on it where he realizes what his destiny really is. Itís not to be a farmer, itís not to be obscure; itís to go out in a blaze of glory in a heroic fashion. But is he really doing it for himself or is he doing it because thatís just his id? Thatís who he is."
Now one could argue that Rambo 4 gives the story a type of closure, coming full circle if you will. In First Blood(Rambo I), he's returning to the US to return some items to his fallen friends family in the Northwest when hell breaks loose. Rambo 4 has John returning home to see if his Father is still there and if things have changed at the urging of missionary Sarah(Julie Benz). The final shot of the film is him walking down the long driveway towards the house with horses grazing around back.

So ARE things better? Was his dad alive? Did John ever find love? Acceptance? The things he sought upon returning from 'NAM but was treated harshly and felt pushed away.

With such frequent news of Mexican drug cartels running rough shot over border authorities and the violence we hear happening on occasion it seems that type of activity is what Rambo will be in action against. The rumors anyway, what shape that takes is anyones guess if the rumors have merit but Stallone does say, "the Mexican situation" and that has to be about the drug cartels.

Anyone else game?
Has Expendables given him a chance to find a new audience? Seems whereas 5 yrs ago Stallone may have been more "screen legend" than "action hero" to the under 25yr set that he has some cred now and likely new audience with them. Thus making the potential for Rambo to go out with a real high?
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Old May 1 2012, 09:29 PM   #2
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Re: Rambo 5 - Last Stand

Bring it on I say. Stallone has proven over the last few years that he's still game, and I'm not really in fear of the Rambo franchise being ruined or anything. If it's anything like the blood fueled adrenaline thrill ride that 4 was, I'll be pretty happy.
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Old May 1 2012, 09:42 PM   #3
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Rambo has become a joke after the first movie (which in itself was a pretty good action movie with a bit of a message) so what's one more? It certainly can't ruin anything and given that Stallone can do good movies out of worn franchises (Rocky Balboa) we may even get a decent movie out of it. I won't hold my breath but in these cases i like to be surprised and admit it if it is a good movie, my expectations are low however.
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Old May 1 2012, 09:48 PM   #4
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I expect it to end up like the last one: so, so close to being unbelievably brilliant film, but instead a steaming pile of crap.
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Old May 1 2012, 10:25 PM   #5
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I really enjoyed the last one (despite it clearly suffering from a small budget), and look forward to another one.

And watching Rambo go up against the Mexican drug cartels is such an obvious, no-brainer of an idea I don't know why they even considered anything else.
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Old May 1 2012, 10:33 PM   #6
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I expect it to end up like the last one: so, so close to being unbelievably brilliant film, but instead a steaming pile of crap.
I see where you're coming from re: Rambo 4. Yeah, it was almost truly brilliant, but couldn't quite reach the high notes the script was hinting at. But it turned out watchable anyway. And I liked the ending. Still, I'd be interested in catching Rambo 5 at some point.
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Old May 2 2012, 12:41 AM   #7
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And watching Rambo go up against the Mexican drug cartels is such an obvious, no-brainer of an idea I don't know why they even considered anything else.
My thought as well. When they first mentioned the Mexican story idea and then word came they were going to go the Savage Hunt route then reboot I was dismayed at the jumping around of story routes.

The fourth film ends with him back in the US at what could easily be any border town in the Southwest. The cartels are either putting a stranglehold on the town and it's residents and/or they are using his father's property to illegally move their merchandise. Either or both are logical starting points for Rambo 5 as I see it now.
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Old May 2 2012, 12:52 AM   #8
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Actually I believe the canon is he's from Bowie which is right on the corner of Arizona, New Mexico, and Mexico.

So yes, you're right.
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Old May 2 2012, 05:14 AM   #9
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I will definitely see it. These are awsome man-movies that make your beard grow at an accelerated rate and crave red meat.
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Old May 2 2012, 07:35 AM   #10
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I am all for it!

I liked the last one a lot. But it felt like it should be built upon. The first film was set in the US. Sure we saw him go home but did not see what it means.

Stylistically it could be a modern Western. I believe his background is that his father is Native American. The visuals to his heritage have been there all along. Wearing headbands, using a bow and arrow, and sometimes riding horses.
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Old May 2 2012, 09:18 AM   #11
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I'm a bit confused. When Rambo 4 first came out it was the start of a possible new series of Rambo films then later Stallone decided to retire the character and a special edition DVD of the film with an added voice over at the end was supposed to give the character finality. Now he is coming back again?
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Old May 2 2012, 11:39 AM   #12
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If this is the final Rambo movie they should call it Last Blood, not Last Stand.
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Old May 2 2012, 12:26 PM   #13
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I'm a bit confused. When Rambo 4 first came out it was the start of a possible new series of Rambo films then later Stallone decided to retire the character and a special edition DVD of the film with an added voice over at the end was supposed to give the character finality. Now he is coming back again?
He probably just enjoys playing the character too much.

I mean the last movie wasn't even a hit really. It didn't do as well as Rambo III even in unadjusted dollars, let alone taking inflation into account, so it can't be for the $$$.
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Old May 2 2012, 02:05 PM   #14
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Will Singer ignore The Last Stand?

(Someone had to say it!)
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Old May 2 2012, 04:08 PM   #15
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Well, clearly the official title would need to be something like Rambo 2: Last Blood Part 1 Rambo V First Blood Part 5... Vengeance
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