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View Poll Results: How do you grade The Avengers?
A+ 149 46.42%
A 102 31.78%
A- 30 9.35%
B+ 17 5.30%
B 11 3.43%
B- 5 1.56%
C+ 0 0%
C 4 1.25%
C- 1 0.31%
D+ 1 0.31%
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Old May 29 2012, 11:43 PM   #1231
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Plus, a younger brother who's always felt he had something to prove will work harder in bed.
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Old May 30 2012, 12:29 AM   #1232
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Yeah, it's kind of absurd to think all women are into the buff Adonis type, as if all men want blonde, big-breasted supermodels.
Yeah us men are fine with big-breasted supermodels with other haircolors.
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Old May 30 2012, 12:30 AM   #1233
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Yeah, it's kind of absurd to think all women are into the buff Adonis type, as if all men want blonde, big-breasted supermodels.
That's not true... I don't care at all about a woman's hair color.

Edit: Ah... zephramc beat me to it by one minute. Damn you!!!! **shakes fist angrily**
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Old May 30 2012, 01:02 AM   #1234
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Supermodels have breasts?

Does not compute, does not compute.
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Old May 30 2012, 03:24 AM   #1235
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It's too bad his best line ("He's adopted") is so out-of-character. I don't think he cracked wise the rest of the movie.
I had the same reaction. A little of that kind of underplayed humor would help his character a lot - what Hemsworth is handed in the role, in two movies so far, is almost all stereotype.

Well, with this many characters someone was going to get shorted I suppose.
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Old May 30 2012, 04:39 AM   #1236
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Like Stark with Pepper and Coulson, Thor would be most emotionally relatable interacting with the people in his life, which would be Jane Foster, Selvig and Loki.

Foster's off-stage.

Selvig and Thor never interact.

Loki mostly spends his time making stupid speeches so that a hero can clobber him (metaphorically or literally) as a punch line. What precisely Loki means to do with Earth is never certain (which is why it isn't interesting either,) and his "plan" to distract attention by being taken prisoner is rather like planning to win a fight by breaking your opponent's fist with your chin.

Which is to say, the interesting Loki who actually had mixed feelings about Odin, Thor, Asgard and his place in the greater scheme of things is replaced by a cliche dumbass heavy. Since the brother is gone, Thor's relationship with his brother is gone. I suppose that Loki could have let the others take him prisoner so that they would end up fighting Thor when he came to collect Loki. And Loki could have sponsored the invasion so that he could offer to call it off in exchange for amnesty. In that kind of plot, interactions between Loki and Thor could have had an interest and intensity far greater than the silliness with the Black Widow.

But a real characterization for Loki was never a part of this script. Obviously the decision to keep apart the villain and his brother is a peculiar one but given that, Thor has nothing to do but be too powerful for the plot. So he had to be shunted aside. Too bad for Hemsworth. I read that he had reservations about Thor's most popular line which speaks well to his talent and judgment.

As for wisecracking, Robert Downey Jr. gets to do most of it, for the good reason that he does it best. You give the ammo to the sniper.
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Old May 30 2012, 04:41 AM   #1237
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Yeah, definitely not down with the "Thor as dullard", either. I thought he was great, as was everyone else here. They all had unique roles to play, as very few (like Joss) and this cast can make it plain..
This reminds me of how badly the first three X-men movies turned out. They were pretty much the Wolverine show and the rest of the characters, especially Cyclops, got screwed in terms of character development. Avengers was all about the TEAM and everyone got the chance to shine.
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Old May 30 2012, 07:22 AM   #1238
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fwiw, my sister prefers Hawkeye. She said the Chrises were good looking, but she prefers Renner. She never mentioned Loki...
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Old May 30 2012, 01:57 PM   #1239
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fwiw, my sister prefers Hawkeye. She said the Chrises were good looking, but she prefers Renner. She never mentioned Loki...

I prefer Hawkeye, too... Loki is interesting, but does nothing for me. And Renner has the best ass in the cast.
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Old May 30 2012, 03:02 PM   #1240
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The entertainment world can't stop talking The Avengers. Despite MIB3 being #1 over the weekend this article at USA Today is exploring what long term implications the film has on releases and it's place in cinematic history.

Though analysts doubt The Avengers can topple either Cameron film, Batman is dead in the water. The Avengers will overtake Knight this weekend, if not before.
Even for a second-place finish, "The Avengers was still very impressive" this weekend, says Ray Subers of Boxofficemojo.com, who notes that the film was easily the fastest to reach the $500 million mark, doing it in 23 days. Avatar held the record at 32 days.
"I'm not sure I've seen people talk about a movie the way they did like this," he says. "It was an old-fashioned cinema experience: popcorn, larger than life, fun. This may be the greatest word-of-mouth movie ever."
"In the past, the superheroes' moneymaking powers would have been good news for other summertime movies, like Dark Shadows, The Dictator and Battleship," the column said of films that challenged and fell to Avengers. "Instead, those movies have struggled to stay afloat."
In all seriousness if those films were either good enough or marketed properly(looking at you DS) then they would pull the business they deserve. Even in the face of the tidal wave that is The Avengers.
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Old May 30 2012, 03:07 PM   #1241
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Yeah, the business is set to have a real bad season. The movies themselves are no better or worse than most summers these days.

Be interesting to see whether DKR really competes with Avengers.
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Old May 30 2012, 03:33 PM   #1242
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Loki mostly spends his time making stupid speeches so that a hero can clobber him (metaphorically or literally) as a punch line. What precisely Loki means to do with Earth is never certain (which is why it isn't interesting either,) and his "plan" to distract attention by being taken prisoner is rather like planning to win a fight by breaking your opponent's fist with your chin.
Loki's plan was to do exactly what happened. Primarily unleash The Hulk and hope he tears everyone to shreds inside the Helicarrier. Hell, as an extension of that he also WANTED the Avengers to track him down in New York because he thought there was no way he could lose with his army and not only would he take the world he'd de-moralize eveyone by seeing their heroes defeated.
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Old May 30 2012, 03:52 PM   #1243
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How It Should Have Ended's take on The Avengers is now live.

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Old May 30 2012, 05:14 PM   #1244
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It's like 2008 all over again. Iron Man came out and became a monumental hit. No one was talking about The Dark Knight. Then that came out and the rest is history. I wonder if the same thing will happen this year. The Avengers is getting the kind of attention that Iron Man got and the next Batman movie is about to come out. Can't wait to see what happens. Blowing The Avengers out of the water will be tough.

By the way... Love that avatar Trekker.



Looks like something Tony Starch could have used...

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Old May 30 2012, 05:49 PM   #1245
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It's like 2008 all over again. Iron Man came out and became a monumental hit. No one was talking about The Dark Knight. Then that came out and the rest is history. I wonder if the same thing will happen this year. The Avengers is getting the kind of attention that Iron Man got and the next Batman movie is about to come out. Can't wait to see what happens. Blowing The Avengers out of the water will be tough.

By the way... Love that avatar Trekker.
Thanks. It's cropped something ThinkGeek posted through Facebook the other day:

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