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View Poll Results: How do you grade The Avengers?
A+ 149 46.42%
A 102 31.78%
A- 30 9.35%
B+ 17 5.30%
B 11 3.43%
B- 5 1.56%
C+ 0 0%
C 4 1.25%
C- 1 0.31%
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Old May 23 2012, 09:34 PM   #1141
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to say nothing of several other nuclear reactors across the world.
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Old May 23 2012, 09:41 PM   #1142
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I still say when you determine your foe needs a very large source of energy to accomplish his plan your first place to look for him to be going are the few places in the world where generating that amount of energy is possible. One of those places being Stark Tower.
Exactly: "One of those places." In the context of the film, Stark looks potentially smart because he intuitively guesses the right place; but we potentially read him as a little slow for not guessing sooner because we as an audience were shown this particular reactor already an hour before. An hour. If Stark is in something like the real world, with multiple power sources and a longer timeframe, he would have to either guess fast ("It must be my reactor because ....") or would need to eliminate all other possibilities, and possibly you get SHIELD splitting its forces to protect various power supplies around the world. A film of this length can't do that, so it takes the narrative shortcut - what the viewer can't do is judge thre intelligence of the characters on the basis of the "edited version of the story/world" that we see.
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Old May 23 2012, 09:49 PM   #1143
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But the question is why wasn't SHIELD already monitoring the places around the globe where such power can be generated? (Again one of those places being Stark Tower.) And it just seems off to me the connection isn't instantly made by Tony or anyone else when he and Banner are talking and they mention both Loki's need for a large source of energy and Stark Tower's arc reactor in the same conversation.

It really shouldn't have taken the two most brilliant men in the world (Stark and Banner) so long to come to the conclusion that Loki might go for one of these large energy sources. They spend so much time trying to devise a way to locate the Tesseract when they could "cut Loki off at the pass" and simply monitor the few places around the world he could go to put his plan into motion and stop him there.
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Old May 23 2012, 10:00 PM   #1144
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Yeah, those are good points: the film might have benefited from a line stating that they suddenly realize Loki's need for something compact, clean and cutting-edge (and not, say a nuclear plant of the traditional design), which could then lead to Stark saying "Aha!"
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Old May 23 2012, 10:11 PM   #1145
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Yeah, those are good points: the film might have benefited from a line stating that they suddenly realize Loki's need for something compact, clean and cutting-edge (and not, say a nuclear plant of the traditional design), which could then lead to Stark saying "Aha!"
And don't get me wrong, this is just me nitpicking an obviously very simple plot. In reality the tower's arc reactor and the Tesseract are McGuffins that are just an excuse for our heroes and villains to do things. Naturally the reason why the arc reactor wasn't thought of was because it'd make the movie end sooner. This movie was simply awesome and I can enjoy it and love it even if when scrutinized the story and some of the actions taken by the characters doesn't make much sense.
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Old May 23 2012, 11:43 PM   #1146
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You mean in an Avengers sequel?
Possibly one of them as a tease. I doubt you'd see the whole team in a cameo teaser.

Yeah just as a tease, just to start to get group out there. A common character/plot that connects the whole MU
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Old May 24 2012, 12:18 AM   #1147
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I can't wait to see the mass audience WTF face when they see a sentient raccoon in a spacesuit for three minutes. You thought Thanos was obscure?
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Old May 24 2012, 12:19 AM   #1148
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About Clint hitting that Chitauri without looking at it:

He did that just as he was telling Tony that they "can't bank worth a damn." So I've just been assuming he can make quick mathematical calculations in his head to determine the velocity and direction of a moving target. Add to that probably extremely good eyesight and good hearing, and I totally believe it.
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Old May 24 2012, 12:25 AM   #1149
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I can't wait to see the mass audience WTF face when they see a sentient raccoon in a spacesuit for three minutes. You thought Thanos was obscure?
Voiced by Ray Winstone or Jason Statham lol
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Old May 24 2012, 03:47 PM   #1150
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Rocket Racoon!
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Old May 24 2012, 10:15 PM   #1151
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But the question is why wasn't SHIELD already monitoring the places around the globe where such power can be generated? (Again one of those places being Stark Tower.)
Guess they wanted Banner to do something other than just Hulk SMASH!
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Old May 24 2012, 10:19 PM   #1152
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Rocket Racoon!
They could team him up with Howard The Duck.
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Old May 25 2012, 12:14 AM   #1153
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My favorite Hawkeye moment, though, was when he shot an arrow at Loki, who caught it, gave The Hawk a "bitch, please" look...and the arrow blew up in his face.
Come to think of it, Loki takes a lot of abuse in this film. Rightly so, but usually the bad guy sits back and lets the minions fight until the climax.
To be fair - Loki DID have his 'one up on the Heroes' moment when he escaped the Helicarrier.
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Old May 25 2012, 12:19 AM   #1154
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I liked after Thor and Loki's initial encounter Loki walks away from Thor straining and arching like he just threw his back out.
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Old May 25 2012, 12:46 AM   #1155
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I can't wait to see the mass audience WTF face when they see a sentient raccoon in a spacesuit for three minutes.
I'd love to see them pull that off.
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