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View Poll Results: How do you grade The Avengers?
A+ 149 46.42%
A 102 31.78%
A- 30 9.35%
B+ 17 5.30%
B 11 3.43%
B- 5 1.56%
C+ 0 0%
C 4 1.25%
C- 1 0.31%
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Old May 22 2012, 07:46 PM   #1096
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Re: AVENGERS: Grade, Reviews, Discuss, DVD & Sequel **SPOILERS**

I liked that Hawkeye moment, actually. Suspension of disbelief wasn't really an issue considering the company he keeps. Also, maybe he and BW have some enhancements other than having moderately science-fictional weaponry.
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Old May 22 2012, 07:48 PM   #1097
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Yeah, it's not remotely realistic but then neither is half the film. It is however, very awesome.

(look closely and you'll see that his bow isn't pointed anywhere near the craft and the arrow couldn't possibly have traveled that fast had he been pointing it the right way).
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Old May 22 2012, 07:49 PM   #1098
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I'm not at all familiar with Hawkeye's use in the comics but I liked the "idea" that he's far-sighted. He tells Fury in the opening sequence that he "sees better from a distance" and I believe in the shawarma scene at the end we see him wearing reading glasses as he reads the paper.
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Old May 22 2012, 07:51 PM   #1099
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cuz he's Fucking Hawkeye!
Works for me.
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Old May 22 2012, 07:55 PM   #1100
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I'm not at all familiar with Hawkeye's use in the comics but I liked the "idea" that he's far-sighted. He tells Fury in the opening sequence that he "sees better from a distance" and I believe in the shawarma scene at the end we see him wearing reading glasses as he reads the paper.
He does;


Also for anyone interested the bow he uses is a heavily modified Hoyt "Buffalo" made especially for the film. Well two versions, one prop flip open one and the operational strung version.

The basic model is $700, his is probably worth over $1000 production cost alone. For comparsion I have the "Excel" which is around $300.
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Old May 22 2012, 08:09 PM   #1101
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Maybe it's just me, but considering that Hawkeye is supposed to be the master of archery, it doesn't seem too far-fetched that he'd be able to hit something without looking at it. Surely it makes sense that he'd have training in hitting things just by sound alone. Or maybe he saw it in the reflection of a nearby window. In any case, it's in keeping with what the character in the comic book is capable of.
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Old May 22 2012, 08:10 PM   #1102
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I loved Hawkeye and wish there had been more of him.
Ditto, hopefully they'll be a Hawkeye/BW movie with plenty of screentime with both of them.

I mean come on, how can they not use him again.

Yesssssssss. My favorite Hawkeye moment, though, was when he shot an arrow at Loki, who caught it, gave The Hawk a "bitch, please" look...and the arrow blew up in his face.

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Old May 22 2012, 08:13 PM   #1103
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I have that one too, in fact I seem to have about 20 or 30 gifs of him now. Not sure how that happened.
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Old May 22 2012, 08:15 PM   #1104
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My favorite Hawkeye moment, though, was when he shot an arrow at Loki, who caught it, gave The Hawk a "bitch, please" look...and the arrow blew up in his face.
Come to think of it, Loki takes a lot of abuse in this film. Rightly so, but usually the bad guy sits back and lets the minions fight until the climax.
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Old May 22 2012, 08:16 PM   #1105
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I can't help but wonder if the Loki arrow moment was influenced by a scene in the Dark Knight Returns, where Green Arrow shoots an explosive kryptonite arrow at Superman.
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Old May 22 2012, 08:17 PM   #1106
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That's largely Joss' thing for having his characters messed around or abused, this time he just had the entire main cast do it to Loki.
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Old May 22 2012, 08:28 PM   #1107
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I can't help but wonder if the Loki arrow moment was influenced by a scene in the Dark Knight Returns, where Green Arrow shoots an explosive kryptonite arrow at Superman.
Not feeling it.

He told Natasha that perhaps if he put an arrow in his(Loki's) eye he might sleep better.

During the fight while she is on the glider she tells Clint that she's bringing him your way.

That moment is fairly organic within the movie and I don't see it as being reflective of that moment in the comic from DKR.
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Old May 22 2012, 08:44 PM   #1108
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The people I went and saw the movie with had a problem with that moment. And thinking about it their issues make sense.

It's one thing to say Hawkeye is a expert shot with the bow. But how was he able to blindly fire at the scout ship behind him and get a dead perfect hit?
Maybe his hearing is also really good, so he was able to determine where it was (and how quickly it was approaching, and from what direction) just from its sound?
As long as he had his hearing aid turned way, way up.
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Old May 22 2012, 09:42 PM   #1109
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Or he could be aiming off the reflection from one of the glass and steel towers.
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Old May 22 2012, 09:59 PM   #1110
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Can't wait to get a decent quality screenshot of the group shot as they "arrest" Loki at the end. That was awesome
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