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View Poll Results: How do you grade The Avengers?
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A 102 31.78%
A- 30 9.35%
B+ 17 5.30%
B 11 3.43%
B- 5 1.56%
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Old April 21 2012, 05:30 PM   #46
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I don't understand you're obsession with how it's filmed. I don't see where that would really matter that much if the story is good, the dialogue is good, the characters are well done, and the action is fun and exciting.
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Yeah it looks like Ruffalo's Hulk is going to be the break through character from this movie from everything I've read about it so far, which is kind of what I expected, he's also who I'm most excited to see (other than Cobie Smulder's Maria Hill). I still think we'll get a Hulk movie sequel for 2015. It's possible that the television series might interfere somehow with this but I doubt it.
I read a quote from Kevin Feige (the guy in charge of Marvel's movies) on IGN where he said they were done with Hulk, at least for now. The impression I got was that he'll probably still be in future Avengers movies, but he won't be getting any more solo films in the near future.
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Old April 21 2012, 05:34 PM   #47
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Yeah it looks like Ruffalo's Hulk is going to be the break through character from this movie from everything I've read about it so far, which is kind of what I expected, he's also who I'm most excited to see (other than Cobie Smulder's Maria Hill). I still think we'll get a Hulk movie sequel for 2015. It's possible that the television series might interfere somehow with this but I doubt it.
I read a quote from Kevin Feige (the guy in charge of Marvel's movies) on IGN where he said they were done with Hulk, at least for now. The impression I got was that he'll probably still be in future Avengers movies, but he won't be getting any more solo films in the near future.
That's probably for the best. There's only so much you can do with the Hulk on his own in a cinematic format -- he works best in a supporting / occasionally antagonistic role. That being said, I enjoyed the heck out of Leterrier's The Incredible Hulk (I've always felt its cinematography, especially, was the best of the Marvel films thus far, as was the action staging). It would probably be far better remembered -- and done better financially -- if it hadn't been sandwiched between the first Iron Man and The Dark Knight. As it is, it was kind of an audience afterthought given the summer of 2008.
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Old April 21 2012, 05:37 PM   #48
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Yeah, I loved TIH, and really think it's the most underrated film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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Old April 21 2012, 05:48 PM   #49
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I enjoyed TIH, but it was clearly a compromised film. Reading some of the things that Norton added, but were excised makes me wish they could go back and add them in. It would have added a great deal of character depth that was missing from the film. As it is, it's a fun action film, but a tad shallow.
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Old April 21 2012, 06:05 PM   #50
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That's probably for the best. There's only so much you can do with the Hulk on his own in a cinematic format -- he works best in a supporting / occasionally antagonistic role.
Yeah, unfortunately I think the two movies proved that Banner just isn't really interesting enough for his own movie. You either have way too much tiresome angst as he searches for a cure and pines after Betty, or you're watching a green monster growl a lot while destroying stuff.

There's just not a whole lot to work with.
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Old April 22 2012, 01:00 AM   #51
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So, who else is planning on watching the lead-up movies over the next couple of weeks? I've already watched TIH recently, tonight I'm watching "Iron Man" soon to be followed by Iron Man 2, Thor and Captain America.
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Old April 22 2012, 01:02 AM   #52
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I'll be conducting my own MCU marathon next weekend.
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Old April 22 2012, 01:05 AM   #53
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I'm planning on one a night leading up to the release day.

Didn't some site have a timeline going? I think the release order is pretty much correct, except with the two Iron Mans together before Incredible Hulk.
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Old April 22 2012, 01:11 AM   #54
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I'm planning on one a night leading up to the release day.

Didn't some site have a timeline going? I think the release order is pretty much correct, except with the two Iron Mans together before Incredible Hulk.
I think Hulk happens "at the same time" as Iron Man 1 and Thor happens at the same time as Iron Man 2. (That last one I'm pretty sure on, since Agent Culson leaves Tony under the watch of Black Widow as he goes off to take care of something else -namely to go to Thor's hammer.)

Obviously, continuity-wise, Captain America happens "first" since it takes place in the 1940s and the ending takes place presumably shortly before CA is recruited for The Avengers in the present.

Here's the Timeline.

(I had not refreshed myself on it before making the above post which comes from memory.)
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Old April 22 2012, 01:15 AM   #55
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Actually just to be cheeky the stuff with the Norse Gods and their battle with the Frost Giants happens first
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Old April 22 2012, 01:16 AM   #56
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Actually just to be cheeky the stuff with the Norse Gods and their battle with the Frost Giants happens first
Well, of course, but I see that is more "back story" to everything without having much specifically to do with Thor. But cheeky-ness taken.
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Old April 22 2012, 01:30 AM   #57
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Quick recap of the "timeline" according to above link:

Prologue for "Thor" (ancient history)
Captain America (1930s/1940s)
(Banner Hulk Experiment/TIH "prologue" credit montage.)
Iron Man
Events in Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, and Thor largely overlap. Thor is perhaps the "latest" series but most of these movies seem to happen at the same time in the spring of "2010."

Iron Man 2's events end first, then Thor's then TIH. (Though the final TIH "sting" event happens after Thor's ending and before the "present day" events of CA.)
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Old April 22 2012, 01:35 AM   #58
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Even though TIM starts before IM2 and ends after it, I still put it after IM2 simply because of Stark's scene at the end, which is of course after he becomes a consultant for SHIELD. And even though Cap is mostly set in the 1940s, I watch it last because the post-credits scene in Thor sets up the tesseract in Cap.

So when I do my own rewatch, my viewing order will be IM1>IM2>TIH>Thor>Cap.
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Old April 22 2012, 01:38 AM   #59
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I'm not doing an re-watch of the movies "in order" just as the mood strikes. Thor and Cap have been probably the movies I've seen most recently so they're the ones I'll probably watch last.
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Old April 22 2012, 01:43 AM   #60
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That's probably for the best. There's only so much you can do with the Hulk on his own in a cinematic format -- he works best in a supporting / occasionally antagonistic role.
Yeah, unfortunately I think the two movies proved that Banner just isn't really interesting enough for his own movie. You either have way too much tiresome angst as he searches for a cure and pines after Betty, or you're watching a green monster growl a lot while destroying stuff.

There's just not a whole lot to work with.
I think that depends on how creative the writers, directors and producers of the movies are, the Hulk has always been one of the most active and intersting characters kin MArvel history to my mind.
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