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View Poll Results: How do you grade The Avengers?
A+ 149 46.42%
A 102 31.78%
A- 30 9.35%
B+ 17 5.30%
B 11 3.43%
B- 5 1.56%
C+ 0 0%
C 4 1.25%
C- 1 0.31%
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Old September 2 2012, 07:19 PM   #1516
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The 3-day Labor Day weekend estimates have The Avengers expansion back at #14 for the weekend.
It also allowed the film to officially cross the $1.5 BILLION mark!!

It's domestic total is at $619.5 million, another $1.5m and it will achieve a 3x multiplier.
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Old September 3 2012, 12:15 AM   #1517
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Any word on if the re-release has anything new? Or is it just the same thing I've already seen five times?
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Old September 3 2012, 01:15 AM   #1518
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I know a few online people at other sites and they don't reveal that anything new was added unfortunately.
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Old September 3 2012, 01:43 AM   #1519
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Good to know, thanks. I was worried I'd miss out on something, but i guess not...
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Old September 3 2012, 02:24 AM   #1520
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Except that the rule of film editing is to cut everything. This scene is nice, but it doesn't advance the story, so I see why it was cut.
It may not enhance the story but it does add more depth to a character which in of itself "advances the story." It make us see and feel that much more in connection with Steve and how out of place he is. I don't think we quite, completely, get it in the movie as it is. Even Cap's own movie ends the moment he wakes up so we don't get much time dealing with Cap adjusting to life 70/80 years in the future. And unless Cap's second movie takes place before Avengers we're not likely to see much (if ever) of Cap trying to adjust to life in the 21st century.
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Old September 3 2012, 04:13 AM   #1521
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Well, he's only been awake a short while. I feel like it was a few weeks at most.
Not like those weeks were the only adjustment time to present day that are acceptable.
Plenty of "man out of time" moments to be had in Captain America: Winter Soldier.
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Old September 3 2012, 08:05 PM   #1522
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I watched the Cap scene and can see why it was cut. It was a good scene, but it doesn't really add a lot to the overall team vs. Loki and the Chitauri story, and would probably fit better in a Cap solo movie.
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The same could be said for a lot of the Black Widow stuff.
Window isn't getting her own movie any time soon, unlike Captain America, so most of her development will be in Avengers.
She also didn't get a lot of development in IM2, since she was basically being introduced for The Avengers. Since this one was intended to be her first major role in the MCU, it makes sense for her to get a fair amount of development.

I remember around the time Avengerse came out I read an article that talked about how they had a lot more stuff with Cap adjusting to the present than what we saw in the movie, but they decided to save it for the next solo movie. So it sounds to me like they are, or at least at one point were, planning on addressing Cap's adjustment to the present in The Winter Soldier.
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Old September 4 2012, 07:05 PM   #1523
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That is a great scene with Steve Rogers, but I almost feel like it works better on its own. If it had been in the Avengers, it may have interrupted the pacing of the movie.
Same here. The sequence was beautifully done but The Avengers was pretty heavy duty with the angst as it was - Banner hiding, Natasha's dark past, Hawkeye mind controlled - probably couldn't afford anything else that interfered with getting to the action as the audience for a summer Hollywood blockbuster expects.

And if there's no chance to follow up Cap's arc like Banner/The Hulk's was followed up in the same movie, it would just introduce a confusing thread to an already jam packed story. I hope his next standalone movie does overlap with The Avengers enough that scenes like that can be used at the beginning.
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Old September 4 2012, 07:13 PM   #1524
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PS, the clip is still up here, for now...
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Old September 4 2012, 08:48 PM   #1525
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PS, the clip is still up here, for now...
That was actually quite moving and poignant. Shame it couldn't have made it into the film, because it does further explain his hostility toward Tony Stark, and sets up the scene with the waitress at the end.
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Old September 4 2012, 09:01 PM   #1526
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Someone remember when the part with him boxing occurs? Because it would be right before that. It's very early. It might weaken the pace after the chase scene in the beginning, but there were a couple of character scenes soon after (Stark underwater is one, although it's at least plot-related).
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Old September 4 2012, 09:08 PM   #1527
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Yeah, it's early on when Fury is first assembling the team. I think it fits with the other character-building scenes at the time (Black Widow's methods of reverse interrogation, Tony and Pepper's romantic night in, what was left with Cap's boxing scene, etc.). I'm sure there were perfectly justified reasons for leaving this scene on the cutting room floor, it's just a shame because it really is such a downbeat, poignant scene that sets up Cap's anachronistic situation and contrasts with the rest of the film nicely.
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Old September 4 2012, 09:12 PM   #1528
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Well, Black Widow saying, "I'm working," on the phone, or whatever her exact words were, was a hoot.
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Old September 4 2012, 09:40 PM   #1529
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After thinking about it, I think it would have worked. I figured out why it was cut, though.

Iron Man's scenes actually pushed the plot (at least slightly). Black Widow needed her scene because she didn't get a movie. Banner had to basically be reintroduced. Captain America had a movie and is getting a second one, so the character development scene was less necessary. Sucks because I don't think it would have hurt (and would have been nice), but it was the least necessary of all the character development scenes. I suspect Stark's scene was also kept because it's Robert Downey Jr., but there's at least an independent justification.
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Old September 4 2012, 09:55 PM   #1530
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I don't think it would have hurt to have the scene included in the movie, but I can understand why it was cut as well. My hope is that the next Cap movie will at least somewhat explore what it's like for him trying to adjust to modern times and maybe have a similar scene. Heck, it's possible this scene, at least the part with him looking at the files of his dead friends and then coming across her file to discover she's still alive, would work as it was filmed.
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