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View Poll Results: Rate Forgotten History.
Outstanding 55 51.40%
Above Average 38 35.51%
Average 9 8.41%
Below Average 3 2.80%
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Old June 1 2013, 01:19 AM   #376
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Re: DTI: Forgotten History by C. L. Bennett Review Thread (Spoilers!)

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^Thanks for the review! About the bit that annoyed you... if it's the thing I think you mean, I'd point out that Lucsly isn't a Starfleet officer, but a civilian government agent. And his job involves a lot of classified and potentially dangerous knowledge, so sometimes being selective about the truth is part of his job.
I understand. Also, it fits with the themes of the book as well as "Once More Into the Breach" where the importance of figures' factual history has less to do with their importance than people think. Still, I've always been vaguely suspicious of books/TV that go, "we can't handle the truth!" I imagined it wouldn't have bothered me were it not Kirk.

Thanks for responding!

I intend to read many more of your books in the future! (I really enjoyed the Titan one!)
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Old June 1 2013, 03:22 AM   #377
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Re: DTI: Forgotten History by C. L. Bennett Review Thread (Spoilers!)

BTW, my favorite part of this book was definitely the retcons. A lot of the biggest continuity questions I had about Star Trek were answered in this book. Getting answers for the Yangs and "Counter-Earth" was worth the price of it on Kindle alone.

Kudos!

(The explanation for Counter-Earth was also similar to the one I used in my home Star Trek game)
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Old June 1 2013, 09:25 PM   #378
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I rated this as outstanding--such a great novel.
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Old June 2 2013, 10:21 PM   #379
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Unfortunately, he did such a good job with the previous book, I wanted to see Lucsly and Dulmer more than the original series cast.
I totally agree with this statement.

Getting answers for the Yangs and "Counter-Earth" was worth the price of it on Kindle alone.
It's been a while since I read the book, can you remind me what the explanation for the Yangs was?
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Old June 2 2013, 10:41 PM   #380
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^ IIRC, it was like this:

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Old June 3 2013, 12:29 AM   #381
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^In fact, the Yangs never said anything about how old the documents are. Cloud William only talked about "the holy words," not "the ancient holy words" or "the traditions handed down from ancient times" or anything like that. Nothing whatsoever was said about the age of their traditions or texts. Viewers have just assumed that the traditions were ancient, because that's what people usually assume about other cultures' traditions. I learned in my college history studies that this is a common mistake even among anthropologists -- assuming that a culture's customs and traditions at the time of contact are unchanged since antiquity. In reality, every culture is dynamic and evolving, and traditions and beliefs change from generation to generation. Even those groups that claim their beliefs represent ancient tradition may be interpreting those traditions in a way the ancients wouldn't have recognized.
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Old June 3 2013, 12:46 AM   #382
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Or to put it another way... without independent evidence, anything which predates anyone you've talked to (like your grandparents) could be very old or fairly new when they first heard about it. And that assumes their recollections are accurate.
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