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Old April 21 2012, 02:20 AM   #61
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A belated welcome to the wonderful world of VOYager, Qutluch. Enjoy the ride.
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Old April 21 2012, 02:41 AM   #62
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I do like the bun. It looks very professional; like she means business. However, it is nice to see her with her hair down in her private quarters; she seems more personable.

Ahhh, the true secret of "the bun". What man doesn't suspect/hope/dream that under the bun, the cool exterior lies the 24th century equivalent of Ellen Barkin and her glasses from the 1987 hit..."The Big Easy"?
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Old April 21 2012, 02:44 AM   #63
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Of course I had to look that up JRulez because I had no idea what it was about
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Old April 21 2012, 03:06 AM   #64
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Of course I had to look that up JRulez because I had no idea what it was about
Hmmm.

Lets just say it happens JUST before this clinch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udQwZ9eJ5sY








If you've never seen it, here is a positive review from 1987. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCDS4h_LiUs

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Old April 21 2012, 03:11 AM   #65
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Guess I'll have to find that one!
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Old April 21 2012, 08:20 AM   #66
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It was realism.

If you'd been actually probed you would be able to relate.
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Old May 2 2012, 04:49 AM   #67
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I’m back from vacation!

Ex Post Facto

Directed by Lavar Burton, awesome!

It begins with Paris being sentenced to re-living a crime, he supposedly committed, (the killing of Tolen Ren) every 14 hours. Then it cuts away to another teaser…the Doctor’s name! Kes and the Doctor have a whole conversation about his possible name: Doctor: Gailen, Saul, Spock…the suspense is killing me

Kim is set back to the Voyager and he explains the Paris situation to Janeway in his usual whinny voice and sad puppy-dog-eyes. In the first scene with Tolen and Lidell Ren we see that this planet has pet dogs and tulips; I don’t know why but I find that amusing. There is a quick introduction to Paris’ interactions with the Rens, which basically consisted of Tolen introducing Paris and Kim to his wife and Paris checking the wife out…not too exciting…

Then Neelix gets involved because of his prior dealings with the Baneans. He cracks a few jokes that only he laughs at, and next thing we know Janeway is on the planet talking with Paris. Paris has a flashback of the killing and loses consciousness. I do love the angry glare that Janeway gives the minister when she tells him: “Minister, we don’t plan on leaving until we prove his innocence”.

Tuvok leads the investigation. He goes back to the planet to speak to Mrs. Ren. Tuvok points out that she must have had the house cleaned and that he is surprised that she chose to stay in the same house. He calls her dispassionate and compares her to Vulcans. Lidell very calmly, without emotion, tells him that she is not dispassionate and that he could just ask Paris about that. Lidell explains her version of her and Paris’ interactions to Tuvok. We see a mildly proactive scene (for Star Trek) of Lidell and Paris running into the house soaking wet. Lidell in white clothes, soaked through, gets on her knees in front of Paris, and then stands up and kisses him. She told Tuvok that they drank tea and went into the atrium after that.

Tuvok is called back to the Voyager and Paris confirms that he remembered what Lidell claimed up to the point of the atrium; he does not remember that. Tuvok performs a mind-meld with Paris in order to find the truth. When he is done he makes the comment that he needs to know what Tolen’s research was in order to confirm that he was in fact innocent. Then Tuvok has all the members’ concerned meet at the scene of the crime. Tuvok proves that Paris is innocent and that Lidell set Paris up. Tuvok’s arguments: First, Paris is taller than the killer in the memories. Second, the killer knew Banean anatomy and Paris did not. Third, a Numiri agent downloaded messages into Paris’ implant procedure, which was done by the doctor. Tuvok then accuses the doctor who tried to say he was innocent, but Tuvok asks for the eye witness to enter (Lidell’s dog) who obviously knew him.

Favorite part: Paris to Tuvok, “Some would say that you risked my future on the eye witness identification of a dog”. Also, this episode raises some interesting questions about how criminals should be punished. Paris would have preferred being locked up on the rehab colony that he was on when Janeway got him. Is imprisonment more humane? How will they handle punishment on the ship? The brig? Marooning?

Least favorite part: Overall, this was an okay episode. It was easy to guess what was going to happen. There was foreshadowing about the dog’s importance when Tuvok spoke to Mrs. Ren, and we knew that ultimately Paris would be proven innocent. Plus, the acting could have been better in this episode.
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Old May 4 2012, 04:38 AM   #68
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Emanations

There are 246 elements and the Voyager may have found the 247th! It must be a pain in the butt to learn that periodic table!

Lots of dead bodies wrapped in cotton candy looking goo; very reminiscent of the movie Killer Clowns! Not a bad start to an episode. The new element is a byproduct of decomposition. Very exciting, a second episode with a cave full of organs/corpses. Is this just bad luck on the ships behalf or a weird obsession with death on behalf of the writers? Oh, and we get mummies when Garan wraps himself in his death shroud!

A dead body ends up being transported to the ship and Kim gets sent to the Vhnori home world. The, still un-named, doctor revives the “dead” women, Ptera. She freaks out because she is expecting to be in the after world. The dead on the Vhnori world are put in pods just before death so that they can be transported to the afterlife where they are part of a higher plain of consciousness. This sounds like ascension in SG-1.

When Janeway is talking to the Ptera she has this rapid side-to-side eye movement going on. It’s kind of creepy, but impressive at the same time.

Garan has second thoughts about dying and going on the next emanations. After talking to Kim he is not sure that he wants to die. His family is pushing him to go on because he was in an accident and his family has to take extra care of him: sounds like they could use a nursing home on Vhnori. (Where is a Ferengi entrepreneur when you need one)? The Vhnori think that they go on to the afterlife as themselves and are reunited with their families; what happens if you hated your spouse?

Wow! Harry Kim grew a pair! He started off whinny (as usual) and then suggests to Garan that he go in the pod instead of Garan. When Garan warned him that he would die in the pod Kim brushed it off and told him that he would be able to be revived by his ships medical officers. He wasn’t afraid for once, amazing!

Favorite part: That I was able to make a Killer Clowns reference! Also, everyone wants to know what happens when you die. This episode has a lot of religious implications, which I find interesting. How do people in the future (with advanced technology) understand religion and the afterlife? More specifically, is it run by Q?

Least favorite part: I didn’t get to see Neelix this episode…sad face.
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Old May 4 2012, 10:01 AM   #69
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More specifically, is it run by Q?
That would surely be Hell.

I thought Emanations was a good straight sci-fi episode.
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Old May 4 2012, 04:24 PM   #70
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I did too! I did not expect to like it nearly as much as I did because Harry Kim was the main character, and I tend not to like him. I write my reviews as I watch the episode and originally, my least favorite part was Kim, but he surprised me! Overall, it was a great episode. We see a new culture, religion, and character development!
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Old May 4 2012, 05:07 PM   #71
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My husband and I had an in-depth discussion on the best Star Trek Captain and he wants me to share his opinon on here to see what everyone else thinks.

"Picard gets thrown 30,000 light years across the galaxy (repeatedly), and he's back in a day. Janeway gets tossed 70,000 light years across the galaxy just once, and she takes decades to get home. Just saying.



Also, Sisko was a better-written character, played by an actor that is incapable of competantly portraying the character's full range of emotions in an authentic way; comparatively, Janeway is a character that never reaches her own potential, because the writing undershoots the quality of a superior actress. To put it in the terms that Neelix would understand, should you cook bad eggs for the right amount of time or undercook good ones? The correct answer, by the way, is neither. You replicate yourself a Picard Omlete, with Earl Gray Tea.)"
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Old May 5 2012, 03:42 AM   #72
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No, you undercook good ones and dress it up in spices, claiming it is an exotic delicacy to have them undercooked.

Trek exegesis depends on this kind of imagination.
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Old May 6 2012, 03:15 AM   #73
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Prime Factors

I have heard great thing about this episode and rightly so!!! It seems that VOY is starting to take off a little. Who are these Delany Sisters, and do we ever see them? Paris has mentioned them a couple of times now. It’s nice to see B’Elanna in an episode. I love it that Janeway is excited to see the Marquis and regular members of the crew getting along, and that Tuvok’s response is, “That kind of bonding should improve performance and maximize efficiency”! Thank you Tuvok for your wisdom!

It’s kind of fun to watch Janeway squirm a little when Gathorel flirts with her when he welcomes the VOY crew to vacation on Sikaris. Sikaris reminds me of Risa. Everyone has a chance to get laid, buy pretty clothes, and party! Also, Tuvok delivers the line, “Indeed” well, but not as well as Teal’c in SG-1!

The Sikarian people have technology with the ability to jump at least 40,000 light years ahead. I have to say, “Screw the Prime Directive!” Steal the technology and fast-forward your way back home. Harry Kim comes up with the idea of trading stories, an important part of the Sikarian society, for their technology. I am becoming more and more impressed with Harry Kim. I may just end up liking his character yet! (Though I’m still not sold on the idea that Garret Wang was ranked by People’s Magazine as one of the top 50 beautiful people in the world. His whininess just takes away any of his sex appeal for me).

It is nice to see new faces in the crew, or old faces having more or a role... Seska is a sharp, intelligent, yet slightly immoral character. Looking at her next to B’Elanna we see just how far B’Elanna has grown since she took the position as chief engineer. Although, I do think Seska has a great idea when she tells B’Elanna that they should just steal the technology. I would want to get home too. However, she should have “owned up” to her mistake at the end, or at least have been supportive of B’Elanna when she chooses to tell Captain Janeway that they disobeyed her.
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I am not sure if I like it that Janeway did not want to violate another planet’s laws or not. Is it more important in her role as Captain to get her people home in their lifetimes, or to do so morally? I am happy that the Voyager crew was able to give the technology a shot though. If they were not able to I think the crew would have been angry with Janeway and possibly mutinied. I think that Tuvok did an excellent job as the tactical and security officer in this regard. He did what Janeway wanted to do, but was unable to morally. Logically, it was the best idea. It would have been treacherous for the crew’s moral if the technology wasn’t at least tried. Tuvok's logic may have saved Janeway from attack.

Favorite part: After having spent 9 hours at a debate competition with middle school students today this quote stuck out for me as my favorite part of the episode: “You can use logic to justify anything; that’s its power and its flaw.”

Least favorite part: I would like to have seen more of an open discussion with the ranking officers about what they should have done about the technology and Prime Directive on Sikaris. Chakotay wasn’t even consulted, and I’m not sure how this doesn’t fall into the “Bridge Officer Meeting” in the first place…
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Old May 6 2012, 04:31 AM   #74
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Yes, we do see the Delaney sisters... eventually.
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Old May 6 2012, 05:04 AM   #75
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I'm guessing that they are gorgeous, but part of me kind of hopes that they are hideous It would make me laught that Kim went out with them!
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