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Old April 10 2012, 11:48 AM   #16
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Re: Who agrees? Kirk's a womanizer!

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Old April 10 2012, 01:01 PM   #17
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Re: Who agrees? Kirk's a womanizer!

Yes, Kirk was a womanizer. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.

Also: teacake and Gov Kodos win the thread

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And that's kissing the Kirk Way
Kirk's car?!?
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Old April 10 2012, 01:46 PM   #18
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If you don't agree suport yourself with more than "Because"
No, why don't you support your claim? I'd like to see some numbers:
1. How many women did Kirk kiss?
2. How many women did Kirk kiss while not having an non-sexual ulterior motive?
3. How many women did Kirk actually sleep with?
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Old April 10 2012, 02:39 PM   #19
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Panda<3 wrote: View Post
If you don't agree suport yourself with more than "Because"
No, why don't you support your claim? I'd like to see some numbers:
1. How many women did Kirk kiss?
2. How many women did Kirk kiss while not having an non-sexual ulterior motive?
3. How many women did Kirk actually sleep with?
C.E. Evans in this thread http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=163162&page=7 starting on Post #95 has some numbers for you!
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Old April 10 2012, 02:48 PM   #20
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Of course Kirk was a womanizer. The revisionist attempts by some fans over the decades to insist that he was otherwise reflect defensiveness and embarrassment at some aspects of TOS's, uh, general exuberance.
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Old April 10 2012, 02:53 PM   #21
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Re: Who agrees? Kirk's a womanizer!

A womanizer? Like he digs women a lot, checks them out, flirts, has lots of girlfriends, never at a loss to find some companionship? A ladies man? Well, shit, of course. That's part of the Kirk legend. I bristle when he's characterized as almost a male whore, an uncontrolable horndog. He doesn't get laid by a dozen green women every week, but he is absolutely a guy who loves the ladies. He's a 1960's TV leading man, the hero of the series and a bachelor. He also exploits his looks and charm to get missions accomplished and his crew out of danger when women are involved.

Nothing wrong with this, he's James Fricking Kirk.
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Old April 10 2012, 02:59 PM   #22
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Panda<3 wrote: View Post
If you don't agree suport yourself with more than "Because"
No, why don't you support your claim? I'd like to see some numbers:
1. How many women did Kirk kiss?
2. How many women did Kirk kiss while not having an non-sexual ulterior motive?
3. How many women did Kirk actually sleep with?
C.E. Evans in this thread http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=163162&page=7 starting on Post #95 has some numbers for you!
Thanks, but I know the actual numbers. That's why I asked these questions in the first place. So much for my Socratic questioning.
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Old April 10 2012, 03:03 PM   #23
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22 Stars wrote: View Post
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Panda<3 wrote: View Post
If you don't agree suport yourself with more than "Because"
No, why don't you support your claim? I'd like to see some numbers:
1. How many women did Kirk kiss?
2. How many women did Kirk kiss while not having an non-sexual ulterior motive?
3. How many women did Kirk actually sleep with?
C.E. Evans in this thread http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=163162&page=7 starting on Post #95 has some numbers for you!
Agreed, and thanks for linking to the previous thread.

This is all subjective. Here's Merriam-Webster's definition of the term:
"intransitive verb
: to pursue casual sexual relationships with multiple women

wom·an·iz·er noun"

By that definition, and based upon the onscreen (or even implied) evidence, I disagree w/ the OP. Very few of Kirk's relationships were sexual, and those that were, were not "casual."

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Old April 10 2012, 03:16 PM   #24
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Re: Who agrees? Kirk's a womanizer!

Another person who hasn't watched Star Trek.
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Old April 10 2012, 03:17 PM   #25
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A womanizer? Like he digs women a lot, checks them out, flirts, has lots of girlfriends, never at a loss to find some companionship? A ladies man? Well, shit, of course. That's part of the Kirk legend.
Yep, pretty much.

People try to dodge this with counting games. Some Trek fans choose to be preposterously literal-minded, ignoring story context, subtext, implication - all of which, of course, makes it kind of difficult to really appreciate storytelling at all or bring much to a discussion of fiction at all. When they see later writers or filmmakers use elements of TOS that they don't like, they're then appalled and insist that those elements were never there at all.
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Old April 10 2012, 03:20 PM   #26
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It was usually the woman who persued Kirk.
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Old April 10 2012, 03:21 PM   #27
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Kissing is a sexual act in my opinion, and he sure did a lot of kissing, I have to disagree with those who say 'he isn't', I say DUH, of course he is!
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Old April 10 2012, 03:29 PM   #28
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Of course he was a womanizer.

The REAL question is why do you ask that like it's a bad thing?
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Old April 10 2012, 03:37 PM   #29
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Kissing is a sexual act in my opinion, and he sure did a lot of kissing, I have to disagree with those who say 'he isn't', I say DUH, of course he is!
But that's just it, most of the time it wasn't a sexual act for him. His lips were his secret weapon.
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Old April 10 2012, 04:39 PM   #30
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He's a womanizer all of the way - and I love it. In fact, I always admired him for this trait.
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