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View Poll Results: What's up with the Blond?
Dead? 3 9.68%
Busy? 20 64.52%
Gone? 1 3.23%
Deadbeat? 7 22.58%
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Old April 25 2012, 10:20 AM   #1
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Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

Naomi acted like she was being raised by a single parent called Neelix.
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Old April 25 2012, 11:10 AM   #2
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

Which episodes are you referring to and what did Naomi say in them? Sam was in "Fury", though that was in "the past". I think she had the Joe Carey syndrome. Where a character disappears for years. Though we never see her killed off.

Scarlett Pomers said an the interview that the actors had a joke on the set. It was, "Where's her mom?" So even they didn't know.
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Old April 25 2012, 11:26 AM   #3
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

She was having some kind of breakdown. Naomi learned to stay away during Mommy's bad days.
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Old April 25 2012, 11:26 AM   #4
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

Scarlet was in Fury, but they didn't share any scenes.

I can imagine they might have bumped into each other on the set at lunch.

"Are you my mommy?"

"Might be. I thought it was the other girl with those widgets glued to her face."

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"Nah, Jeri Ryan."
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Old April 25 2012, 11:28 AM   #5
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

Will she have a gas mask on?
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Old April 25 2012, 11:33 AM   #6
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

I think the writers started to pair her with Seven as a family unit. It might have been interesting to have had Sam incapacitated indefinitely, if not killed, and have had Seven more involved as a mother figure. It would have been a more interesting development than the Borg kids. It would have been a nice transition from Janeway's mother figure to Seven to have Seven discovering aspects of humanity through helping to raise Naomi.
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Old April 25 2012, 11:48 AM   #7
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according to memory alpha

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Old April 25 2012, 11:57 AM   #8
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

Apparently, Nancy Hower is not known as an actress on IMDb as much as she as known as a writer/producer/director. So apparently, she decided to phase out her acting? She plays a teacher in a short in 2000, then a minor part in Catch and Release in 2006.

I get the idea she didn't want to be an actress much anymore.
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Old April 25 2012, 12:05 PM   #9
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

Would you rather be a puppeteer or a puppet?

Although, I tried watching that comedy she produced, I have all three seasons, but I stopped after the pilot, it was a little too like the Office, but not quite as good.

I searched all the scripts for the Terms Wildman + Mother.
and Wildman.

Mortal Coil s04e12.

WILDMAN: It seems like every time I turn around I'm recycling her clothes back into the replicator.
SEVEN: Children assimilated by the Borg are placed in maturation chambers for seventeen cycles.
WILDMAN: Interesting. Well, if you'll excuse me, I need to go talk to Neelix.
Which answers some questions I had about cleaning clothes.

Bliss s05e14.

SEVEN: Naomi Wildman, your presence here is unauthorised. State your intentions.
NAOMI: I'm hiding.
SEVEN: From whom?
NAOMI: Everyone. They're all acting strange. Even Mom.
Dark Frontier s05e15

NAOMI: I had a bad dream. Can I stay with you for a while?
SEVEN: Where is your mother?
NAOMI: She's working in Engineering, and Neelix is on a duty shift. Please? I won't bother you.
SEVEN: Very well.
Survival instinct s06e02

NAOMI: Species five two one?
SEVEN: Your mother would not approve of you memorising Borg designations. I don't approve either. We've discussed the impropriety of you emulating the Borg.
NAOMI: Sorry.
Scientific method s04e07

TORRES: It was nice you could get the night off.
PARIS: Nice had nothing to do with it. I switched shifts with Ensign Wildman which means tomorrow I'll pull a double-duty on the bridge and with the Doc.
TORRES: Well, I appreciate the sacrifice. Tell me about the wine.
The Omega Directive. s04e20.

KIM: Thanks, but I need to get the power relays online first.
NEELIX: Are you sure that's a good idea? Ensign Wildman was assigned to that.
KIM: This is ridiculous. I'm not going to waste time just because Seven wants to turn this team into her own private Collective.
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Old April 25 2012, 12:14 PM   #10
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

Oh, so she ripped 'em off, eh? That is shameful.

But yeah, I think her not wanting to act as much might have had something to do with her character not appearing towards the end of the series. However, they could have talked about her doing things, teaching Naomi things, etc. without her actually having to be there.

Not doing that makes her character look busy or deadbeat. Those seem to be the poll options ahead right now.
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Old April 25 2012, 12:45 PM   #11
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

Ripping them off?

Socially awkward manager of a supermarkets in charge of a ridiculously incompetent staff.

I hardly think that the office invented that dynamic.

it's standard.

Police Academy made almost thousands of dollars from this cookie cutter.
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Old April 25 2012, 12:52 PM   #12
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

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But yeah, I think her not wanting to act as much might have had something to do with her character not appearing towards the end of the series. However, they could have talked about her doing things, teaching Naomi things, etc. without her actually having to be there.

Not doing that makes her character look busy or deadbeat. Those seem to be the poll options ahead right now.
How about she is a busy working mom?
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Old April 25 2012, 01:04 PM   #13
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

Acting is a shitty job for 99 percent of the actors in the world.

She's a producer godnabbit.

Acting is a demotion

Actors suck up to producers.

Producers suck up to investors.

Investors have real jobs.

The circle of life, Hollywood-Style.
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Old April 25 2012, 01:07 PM   #14
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

Guy Gardener: That "ripping off" statement was a joke. .

Teacake: I said busy or deadbeat. I feel she is a busy working mom and I voted for busy. I was commenting on what other people thought. Some people think she's deadbeat, as there are some votes for that, so the way the show was done apparently made her look deadbeat to some people. I don't think she was deadbeat.

Considering that some people in my house were having a very loud, heated argument over whether or not someone got any popcorn when I was writing that post, I'm glad it made any sense at all. Sorry about that.
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Old April 25 2012, 01:21 PM   #15
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Re: Was Sam Wildman dead in season 6 and 7?

The deadbeat option is valid.

Naomi is not her daughter.

Sam's daughter died, and before she had the chance to process this, Janeway forces a science experiment monster replacement on her, all but ordering the Ensign to love the thing, because the real death of her real daughter is really insignificant.

They're lucky that the baby wasn't flushed out a toilet if Sam hadn't handled the death and substitution of her bundle of joy.

You see how kids cop when they find out that they're adopted.

How is Naomi going to cope finding out that she's not just adopted, but burped out of subspace by a space sphincter.
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