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Old April 5 2012, 06:25 PM   #46
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Re: What if a 'Mass Effect' TV series were made?

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I think the Mass Effect series would be better served as a miniseries. But as other posters have noted the budget would be astronomical.
That's why any serious attempt at a Mass Effect series or minseries is better off being an animated work, because it would lower the budget requirements (plus being easier to work with).
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Old April 5 2012, 09:43 PM   #47
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Can the ending be retconned in any way, shape or form?
Yes it can, which is the glory of the video game medium
And it looks like it's going to happen

Well, here ya go Mass Effect fans. After the highly-publicized outcry from gamers who were, let's say, "disappointed" with how BioWare handled the ending to Mass Effect 3, today the company has announced Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut, a downloadable content pack that will "expand upon the events at the end of the critically acclaimed Action RPG".
http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mis...s-game-ending/
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Old April 5 2012, 10:19 PM   #48
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Re: What if a 'Mass Effect' TV series were made?

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Can the ending be retconned in any way, shape or form?
Yes it can, which is the glory of the video game medium
And it looks like it's going to happen

Well, here ya go Mass Effect fans. After the highly-publicized outcry from gamers who were, let's say, "disappointed" with how BioWare handled the ending to Mass Effect 3, today the company has announced Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut, a downloadable content pack that will "expand upon the events at the end of the critically acclaimed Action RPG".
http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mis...s-game-ending/
Yeah but that is not a retcon, it appears to be just them adding some additional scenes to the ending, and perhaps a epilogue.
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Old April 5 2012, 10:25 PM   #49
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It sort of is, since


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Old April 5 2012, 11:03 PM   #50
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It sort of is, since


This post incorrectly summarizes the ending. Depending on the player's choice, the majority of galactic civilization can indeed be saved. There are, however, a few key areas that can be utterly wiped out.
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Old April 5 2012, 11:07 PM   #51
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Oh I never thought that
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Old April 5 2012, 11:17 PM   #52
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It sort of is, since


This post incorrectly summarizes the ending. Depending on the player's choice, the majority of galactic civilization can indeed be saved. There are, however, a few key areas that can be utterly wiped out.
Not sure what you're getting at....


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Old April 5 2012, 11:32 PM   #53
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It sort of is, since


This post incorrectly summarizes the ending. Depending on the player's choice, the majority of galactic civilization can indeed be saved. There are, however, a few key areas that can be utterly wiped out.
Not sure what you're getting at....


That bit of broken lore is one of the reasons why the ending is terrible.
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Old April 6 2012, 03:37 AM   #54
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Well, not for nothing what you're asking is almost like asking someone to describe all of star trek for you in a 20 second ad.
Once upon a time, Star Trek's survival did depend on being sell-able in a 20 sec ad (or maybe longer, I don't know how long ads were in the 1960s). If the ad for the first episode hadn't attracted enough viewers, it would have been all over right then and there. And the show got the greenlight even more simply (and when you think about it, incorrectly): Wagon Train to the Stars.

If you mean that Mass Effect has so much baggage that it can't be summarized coherently, then there's your first task: pare away enough baggage to make it sell-able in a 20 sec ad, not to mention ensuring that the series itself doesn't get dragged in fifteen different directions. For instance, "how far will you go to save you're species?" sounds like something you could build a show around pretty nicely. Start there, and keep or toss elements based on whether they fit that theme.

aelius' idea could also work (not necessarily incompatible with "how far will you go to save you're species?") -

War Hero Cmdr. Shepard and his elite crew of commandos and (sometimes odd) specialists, travel the galaxy battling conspiracies, both human and alien, corporate corruption, and trying to unravel the mystery of why a once high ranking agent of the galactic government has apparently turned traitor and begun a campaign of genocide against humanity in cooperation with one of the governments most hated foes.
That provides both episodic stories (conspiracies etc) and an ongoing arc (why did that guy become a traitor)? Two questions: aren't commandos supposed to be doing more war-type missions in addition to what sounds like police investigations, and does everyone know the official is a traitor? And if it's well known, why does it matter why he's a traitor? Just hunt him down and kill him!

From TheGodBen's comments, it does sound like the story has waaaay too much stuff in it for a TV series anyway:

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You have the Council races (Asari, Salarian, Turian, Human, Volus, Elcor, Hanar, and others), the Terminus Systems (various factions that are independent of Council control), the Krogan, the Batarians, the Quarians, the Geth, the Collectors, and the quasi-terrorist Cerberus organisation. Oh, and the Reapers.

Expansion, dominance, freedom, survival, old racial hatreds... the usual reasons.

...it's like all the popular sci-fi universe rolled into one. Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, Firefly, and more are all inspirations for various elements of the universe. If you like one or all of those franchises, you'll probably like Mass Effect. It may not be particularly original, but it's a lot of fun and very atmospheric.
I'd start with two or three races fighting, max. Weave the others into the story judiciously. Focus on one motive per species, don't try to cram everything in there. Complexity is good, but needs to be paced (and it's a good way to make sure the story doesn't run out of material, too).

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Old April 6 2012, 03:59 AM   #55
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From TheGodBen's comments, it does sound like the story has waaaay too much stuff in it for a TV series anyway:

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You have the Council races (Asari, Salarian, Turian, Human, Volus, Elcor, Hanar, and others), the Terminus Systems (various factions that are independent of Council control), the Krogan, the Batarians, the Quarians, the Geth, the Collectors, and the quasi-terrorist Cerberus organisation. Oh, and the Reapers.

Expansion, dominance, freedom, survival, old racial hatreds... the usual reasons.

...it's like all the popular sci-fi universe rolled into one. Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, Firefly, and more are all inspirations for various elements of the universe. If you like one or all of those franchises, you'll probably like Mass Effect. It may not be particularly original, but it's a lot of fun and very atmospheric.
I'd start with two or three races fighting, max. Weave the others into the story judiciously. Focus on one motive per species, don't try to cram everything in there. Complexity is good, but needs to be paced (and it's a good way to make sure the story doesn't run out of material, too).
Well, that's a description of the games. A show would have a narrower focus, especially since the writers wouldn't have to flesh out the universe as much.
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Old April 6 2012, 06:01 AM   #56
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Re: What if a 'Mass Effect' TV series were made?

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It sort of is, since


This post incorrectly summarizes the ending. Depending on the player's choice, the majority of galactic civilization can indeed be saved. There are, however, a few key areas that can be utterly wiped out.
Not sure what you're getting at....


Again ... wrong.

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Old April 6 2012, 06:32 AM   #57
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Re: What if a 'Mass Effect' TV series were made?

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This post incorrectly summarizes the ending. Depending on the player's choice, the majority of galactic civilization can indeed be saved. There are, however, a few key areas that can be utterly wiped out.
Not sure what you're getting at....


Again ... wrong.


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I know. That's the whole point. That's the ENTIRE reason people are pissed at the ending. It makes NO sense. It has a massive plot hole. I'm not wrong, I'm exactly right and no one gets what's going on with the ending as a result. It's precicely that last scene that caused people to





Theres a reason why Brett said this

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This post incorrectly summarizes the ending. Depending on the player's choice, the majority of galactic civilization can indeed be saved. There are, however, a few key areas that can be utterly wiped out.
Not sure what you're getting at....


That bit of broken lore is one of the reasons why the ending is terrible.
That's WHY the ending is being patched up. What are you trying to get at other than to confirm that the ending is a mess....something that no one disagreed with?
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Old April 6 2012, 06:43 AM   #58
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Re: What if a 'Mass Effect' TV series were made?

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This post incorrectly summarizes the ending. Depending on the player's choice, the majority of galactic civilization can indeed be saved. There are, however, a few key areas that can be utterly wiped out.
Not sure what you're getting at....


Again ... wrong.


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I know. That's the whole point. That's the ENTIRE reason people are pissed at the ending. It makes NO sense. It has a massive plot hole. I'm not wrong, I'm exactly right and no one gets what's going on with the ending as a result. It's precicely that last scene that caused people to




That's WHY the ending is being patched up and that's why any changes is going to be a retcon...which was my point from the start. Seriously, what are you trying to get at other than to confirm that the ending is a mess?
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Old April 6 2012, 08:11 AM   #59
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I wondered exactly why the fans were so pissed off at the ending of ME3. Now I know. Actually, I like the idea that it might have been a That's very Lovecraftian in its bleakness, although not very original.
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