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Old April 3 2012, 06:47 AM   #1
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Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

I know we didn't see it.

But in her spare time, while the camera crew were on a fag break?

How long did it take?

How many of Kathy's adventures were effected by taking the time to change out of period costume?
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Old April 3 2012, 08:52 AM   #2
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

Maybe Voyager was commanded by assorted holo-Janeways who have kept the real Janeway locked away somewhere on the holodeck? This could be the reason for her purported eratic characterization over the 7 year journey.
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Old April 3 2012, 10:14 AM   #3
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

If I had a holo-Mr. Darcy, I would never leave the holodeck.
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Old April 3 2012, 11:24 AM   #4
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

I never quite got what the appeal was for Janeway in that holonovel. Okay she did have a romantic streak and was also very into history but couldn't it have been something a little more.. lively? Or perhaps life was lively enough.
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Old April 3 2012, 11:57 AM   #5
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

Maybe she deliberately choice a "dull" story, for the quiet time.

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Old April 3 2012, 12:45 PM   #6
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

This is how in the modern day one finds themself reading a book... A friend says "read this, it's fantastic" and we do.

but in an age of digital copies, which is also right now, where you lose nothing when sharing your dearest, you don't have to worry about assholes who never return a book leant.

I hate it when reprobates look me in the eye when they're holding my books hostage, but you can see that they have no memory of borrowing my property and no intention of returning them if they did, because it's too much of an effort to scurry for what is mine, in the attics or basements of their houses they've been buried and hidden.

We want our friends to read what we read so they can know joy like we know joy, so we can be the same and bound in the words that made those pages, that if they agree how we agree that we can trust them, because they are us.

But heres the pickle.

To hate a book someone gives you is to hate that person who gave you that book, since it defines who they are.

Often.

One has to keep reading a shitty book, a dull book, a wrong book because you might be 5 pages from when the story turns around and pinches your interest and you do not have to unfriend this person on facebook because they have no taste and no depth.

I'm not being ridiculous.

This is how the Crusades started.
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Old April 3 2012, 12:56 PM   #7
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

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I never quite got what the appeal was for Janeway in that holonovel. Okay she did have a romantic streak and was also very into history but couldn't it have been something a little more.. lively? Or perhaps life was lively enough.
Jane Austen not lively enough?! But, but... think about the brooding gentlemen, the secret glances, the endless pining, the thrill of accidental touches, the repressed sexuality...
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Old April 3 2012, 12:59 PM   #8
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

Miss Lemon wrote: View Post
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I never quite got what the appeal was for Janeway in that holonovel. Okay she did have a romantic streak and was also very into history but couldn't it have been something a little more.. lively? Or perhaps life was lively enough.
Jane Austen not lively enough?! But, but... think about the brooding gentlemen, the secret glances, the endless pining, the thrill of accidental touches, the repressed sexuality...
Jane Austen, sci-fi nerd, who knew?
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Old April 3 2012, 01:13 PM   #9
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

There's new comic book on the shelves right now...

Pride and prejudice and Zombies



Soon to be major motion picture staring Natalie Portman.


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Old April 3 2012, 02:02 PM   #10
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

We might have actually had that on Voyager. Of all the countless times the holodeck went wonky, why couldn't it have merged Janeway's gothic romance novel with Tom's classic horror - one minute you're seducing Lord Somethingorother, the next you're fleeing the undead.

What about that Irish holo-boyfriend of hers?
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Old April 3 2012, 02:05 PM   #11
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

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There's new comic book on the shelves right now...

Pride and prejudice and Zombies

It's hardly new. It came out in 2009. It's pants.
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Old April 3 2012, 02:15 PM   #12
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Deckerd wrote: View Post
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There's new comic book on the shelves right now...

Pride and prejudice and Zombies
It's hardly new.
It's not a comic either.
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Old April 3 2012, 02:42 PM   #13
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

It was just a book first.

A lot of comics were books first.

A lot of movies were books and/or comics first too.

There's a food chain here that goes both ways.

The book is pants? Good to know. I assumed the comics were pants Dekerd, but the covers were memorable.

2009 still seems like tomorrow sometimes.

In my heart I know that 2009 is and always will be the ridiculously distant future.

I was watching Mission Impossible 4 last night and they had smartglass on the car Tom Cruise was driving, and I thought to myself, hey... That's probably real. Which is when I wondered if I was wrong to think that smartglass was special effects in Minority Report? Had smartglass always been real, or had someone invented smartglass inbetween Minority Report and Mission Impossible 4?

Any technology more complicated than a coffee vending machine will eventually try to kill us and take over the world.
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Old April 3 2012, 11:17 PM   #14
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

I still have my copy of Wuthering Heights I borrowed from my high school library 5000 years ago.

And yes Miss Lemon you are quite right in your analysis of the liveliness of Austen. I know Mulgrew played Janeway with a lot of innuendo and personal commentary running alongside the story lines (by which I mean, she was a good actor who had a view of her character as a whole person not just a Trek person). I think she, she being some kind of Mulgrew/Janeway composite in my mind would really enjoy some downtime with Austen.

Oh see what google told me, KM recommending Austen and the Brontes:

http://www.totallykate.com/milan/milan5.html

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Old April 4 2012, 01:55 AM   #15
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Re: Did Janeway finish her Jane Austin Holonovel?

The holonovel that Janeway was participating in was a gothic novel along the lines of one of the Bronte sisters. They were written in the Victorian era and influenced by Romanticism. Jane Austen is a product of the Napoleonic and Georgian eras. It was much more austere. Though her books are still lively as Miss Lemon and teacake have stated. For the record I think Janeway would be a fan of both. Indeed the above article about Mulgrew in Italy shows her interest in both(all four) authors.
I also feel that Jane Austen is more difficult to recreate faithfully, maybe why we only saw Janeway in a gothic holonovel.

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