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Old April 27 2012, 03:47 AM   #121
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They mentioned the White Hot Room in a recent issue... I believe the Secret Avengers tie-in?
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Old April 27 2012, 03:52 AM   #122
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^ You're correct. Secret Avengers #26 it appears to be.
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Old April 27 2012, 08:16 AM   #123
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Yeah Hope's biological parents are still unknown IRRC.
We learned the identity of Hope's biological mother (killed in the Cooperstown massacre) and met her maternal grandmother in Uncanny X-Men 526. The identity of her biological father is still unknown. Perhaps the father was a Grey?
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Old April 27 2012, 08:33 AM   #124
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I didn't know they revealed the mother. To be honest I only started reading regularly again a few months before Schism happened. I've continued to catch up on Fraction's Uncanny run prior to that.

Uncanny X-Men #11: This was a very solid issue, perhaps my favourite of the book so far. I love when the writers decide to get into the heads of the characters and explain their motivations for their actions or agendas. My opinion hasn't been swayed on anything yet. Interesting move by Scott at the end of the issue to unleash Kildare, ahhh Scott ever the strategist. The letter was interesting indeed. I don't know though if the mainstream human population will ever support mutantkind given their increased hysteria and prejudiced attitude towards Utopia at the moment, no matter what the government attempts to do to them. There is no one on Utopia that the humans can relate to in this matter, except perhaps Hope. I loved Namor's little comment about Emma. He really has no tact or care for wanting other people's women, a good example of his arrogance and ego as a King. It does support my statement that the only reason that Namor is there is because he admires Scott so much. I believe the same to be true for Erik. Nice homage to the end of Morrison's New X-Men run where Hope laments that she and Logan talked and she asked her to kill her (and Peter's attempt to stop Logan), exactly what Jean told him to do when they were trapped on Asteroid M and she went full blown Phoenix mode. I know that Greg Land has a negative reputation among fans, but I really have enjoyed his art work...oh and I absolutely love this "Unit" person. He's a very interesting new villain. A wildcard player in this conflict if you will. So far this is the best issue of the event and it's a tie-in issue, that's rare.

Spider-Man is an interesting character in this conflict since he has obvious long connections with both groups. Marvel has stated that he will not be a player in this conflict and were having meetings to discuss the fallout of the battle and how it would effect the rest of the Marvel Universe outside the two main groups. Peter's recent motto that no one will die says to me that he will bow out of this battle. This is going to be a slug fest and as I stated in the Marvel thread, there will be deaths IMO...I can't see Peter being a willing part of this battle, especially given his side swapping during the Civil War.
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Old April 27 2012, 09:14 AM   #125
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Mothers are generally a few feet away from their new born for the first few weeks, months years, even if they're working in rice paddies or crack whores...

"No, please stay, if the baby cries, 20 percent off."

There was a culling on the site of her birth.

The town was destroyed.

I thought it was because the purifiers were trying to make a point to god.

"NO!

No!

Bad god!

Bad!

BAAAA-AAD!"

But taking out the town to eliminate an unknown father actually makes sense.

i mean herod kept his throne after doing the same thing.

Greys and Summers on the loose...

Hyperstorm

X-Man

Cable

Corsair

Vulcan

Havok...

You know how Mary and Joseph had more kids, don't you think it's more than possible that if John and Elaine, if John didn't outright cheat on the miussus or have a second family, that being a professor himself in the 70s that they didn't go to a LOT of key parties that John could have fathered other children, or John might not be jeans father?

The 70s.

Fuck,yeah.
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Old April 27 2012, 09:19 AM   #126
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Doesn't Jean have a sister named Sarah or something who had kids? For some reason I recall Jean having a niece and nephew.

Preview for issue three...things finally start to heat up and Logan's loyalty is questioned by Captain America, and Steve finally addresses the point i've been making all along, except he directs it at Logan. It should be "No One is Listening!!" This is usually what happens during superhero conflicts though. No one listens to each other...so what is the inevitable? FIGHT!!!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...eview&id=12195
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Old April 27 2012, 04:44 PM   #127
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Preview for issue three...things finally start to heat up and Logan's loyalty is questioned by Captain America, and Steve finally addresses the point i've been making all along, except he directs it at Logan. It should be "No One is Listening!!" This is usually what happens during superhero conflicts though. No one listens to each other...so what is the inevitable? FIGHT!!!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...eview&id=12195
Is everyone under the influence of Landru? I mean, jeez, what the heck was Captain America's thought process there? That was as stupid a maneuver as Cyclops' blast at the end of AVX #1. That's just dumb. *facepalm*
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Old April 27 2012, 04:50 PM   #128
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You have never read Civil War have you?

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Doesn't Jean have a sister named Sarah or something who had kids? For some reason I recall Jean having a niece and nephew.
Her entire family aside from her mom was murdered by Shiar Death Commandos. The same ones that also helped murder Lilandra. Which boggles the mind that Gladiator even would use them in WatM.
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Old April 27 2012, 05:23 PM   #129
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Civil War started 6 years ago.

I have a 5 year old nephew.
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Old April 27 2012, 05:38 PM   #130
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Talk about missing the point.
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Old April 27 2012, 06:12 PM   #131
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Preview for issue three...things finally start to heat up and Logan's loyalty is questioned by Captain America, and Steve finally addresses the point i've been making all along, except he directs it at Logan. It should be "No One is Listening!!" This is usually what happens during superhero conflicts though. No one listens to each other...so what is the inevitable? FIGHT!!!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...eview&id=12195
Is everyone under the influence of Landru? I mean, jeez, what the heck was Captain America's thought process there? That was as stupid a maneuver as Cyclops' blast at the end of AVX #1. That's just dumb. *facepalm*

As I said earlier in the thread, this whole event has been built upon out of character behavior and contrived circumstances. The characters are just placeholders to move the story forward and behave as such. It reminds me of Star Trek: Voyager. This example is particularly egregious as it was written by Cap's regular writer, Ed Brubaker.
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Old April 27 2012, 07:01 PM   #132
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You have never read Civil War have you?
No, I haven't. I'm very much a Marvel virgin.
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Old April 27 2012, 07:39 PM   #133
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That explains a lot.

Well usually in events where Bendis or Marvel editorial has a hand, they have the characters acting out of character usually more aggressive and idiotic than usual to justify the ensuring conflict such Cap vs IM in Civil War or Avengers vs X-Men.
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Old April 27 2012, 10:56 PM   #134
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Yeah, I thumbed thriugh the first issue and put it back on the shelf. I really liked Uncanny X-Men 11 with it's opening monologue from Namor, to the fight between Red Hulk and Colossus (Which I think was better than either of the "AvX vs" fights), to Scott activating his "Avengers Protocol", which is the first time in this event that it's made clear that Scott knew this was coming, as per X-Sanction. Possibly the best issue to come out of AvX yet.

New Avengers 24 is, I think, another one of those issues that will read better in trade. None of the NA team are actually in the issue, which is set mostly in the past and details the connection between K'un L'un and the Phoenix Force. Secret Avengers follows the space-team on their mission, and ends with the appearance of...



I wasn't too impressed with either of the Avengers AvX crossovesr this week.
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^ Maybe because of Carol taking his colours pretty soon as shown in my avatar?
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