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Old February 6 2012, 07:07 AM   #1
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STAR TREK: PHASE II "The Child" Teaser Sneak Peek

Cawley and company have posted the teaser to their upcoming episode "The Child", check it out.

(I'd embed it, but I can never get it to work properly for me.)
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Old February 6 2012, 07:23 AM   #2
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Embedding is easy. Here you go:

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Old February 6 2012, 07:26 AM   #3
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^Good to know. Thanks!
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Old February 6 2012, 03:22 PM   #4
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Looks good! Nice setup.....
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Old February 6 2012, 03:25 PM   #5
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Looks great! Can't wait to see this one
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Old February 6 2012, 05:28 PM   #6
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Thats was great, SFX continue to improve. Look forward to the rest.
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Re: STAR TREK: PHASE II "The Child" Teaser Sneak Peek

I am already queueing up for the download. It looks excellent as expected from Mr. Cawley and crew.
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Old February 6 2012, 10:26 PM   #8
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This clip illustrates a pet peeve of mine: fanfims write the characters as utterly unprofessional and downright foolish. The Enterprise has had all kinds of weird shit happen to it encountering phenomenon that seemed harmless on scanners (energy barrier, anyone?), and yet a crewman who should know better flies straight through an unusual phenomenon that appears to be only a few shiplengths across...and doesn't bother to tell the Captain. Kirk's "Deltans" line is also so out of character as to be embarrassing. Bones, maybe. Kirk, no.
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Old February 6 2012, 11:36 PM   #9
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The audio could be improved. Does this contain the final sound mix? I ask because the blue-shirt ensign Sulu talks with at the beginning sounds really far away from the mic, whereas Sulu sounds fine.

Wasn't crazy about the booze & donuts binge nap Scotty seemed to be on at first, but now that I think about it, it's sort of growing on me.

Visually, the show looks fantastic. The visual effects are outstanding, and apart from what felt a little like too much of a shot-for-shot recreation of the TNG episode, (which I admit, I could be wrong about as I haven't watched that episode in a while), I was very pleased.
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Old February 7 2012, 01:01 AM   #10
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Well doubleohfive, TNG did rip the script off of Phase II. (the original Phase II anyway) So fair is fair.
And we get new, old Trek!! Yippee!!
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Old February 7 2012, 01:15 AM   #11
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Yes, The Child was the second season opener for TNG and was loosely based on a script planned for the Phase II TV series that never was. This looks great and I hope it is as good as the teaser!
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Old February 7 2012, 01:23 AM   #12
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And here I thought that female Deltans were all bald like Ilia in ST:TMP. Oh, well.
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Old February 7 2012, 01:40 AM   #13
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baxart wrote: View Post
Well doubleohfive, TNG did rip the script off of Phase II. (the original Phase II anyway) So fair is fair.
And we get new, old Trek!! Yippee!!
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Yes, The Child was the second season opener for TNG and was loosely based on a script planned for the Phase II TV series that never was. This looks great and I hope it is as good as the teaser!
I am aware of that, thanks.

I guess my larger issue with it is simply that given this opportunity to tell the story the way it was originally intended, I had hoped there would be a little more original camerawork and editing involved as opposed to simply recreating (nearly) the same shot-for-shot sequence as was done for TNG back in 1988.

Its not completely a bad thing, mind you, I'm just a little disappointed in that choice.

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And here I thought that female Deltans were all bald like Ilia in ST:TMP. Oh, well.
Deltans were bald. But, as James Cawley stated yesterday on his FB page where I brought up the same item for discussion, you'd be hard-pressed to find a working actress in Hollywood who will shave their head for a non-paying fan film gig.

Besides, James indicated that the hair/baldness element will be addressed, so I'm fine with that particular choice.
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Old February 7 2012, 03:05 AM   #14
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This clip illustrates a pet peeve of mine: fanfims write the characters as utterly unprofessional and downright foolish. The Enterprise has had all kinds of weird shit happen to it encountering phenomenon that seemed harmless on scanners (energy barrier, anyone?), and yet a crewman who should know flies straight through an unusual phenomenon that appears to be only a few shiplengths across...and doesn't bother to tell the Captain. Kirk's "Deltans" line is also so out of character as to be embarrassing. Bones, maybe. Kirk, no.
Well, yeah...there are always "fanplot" devices or there wouldn't be any interesting stories.

There are some other minor glitches that don't detract from my enjoyment of the story. In fact, they make it more interesting for me usually and provide some BBS fodder. To wit:

1) The "nebula" appears on the viewscreen and Sulu soon thereafter says "put in on the main viewscreen."

2) The Enterprise slows to warp 1, Sulu orders the helsman to take them through at warp 1, and then we hear the engines "rev up."

3) The obvious "could have gone around the thing" mentioned earlier.

Any others?
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Old February 7 2012, 04:40 AM   #15
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Re: STAR TREK: PHASE II "The Child" Teaser Sneak Peek

Maurice wrote: View Post
This clip illustrates a pet peeve of mine: fanfims write the characters as utterly unprofessional and downright foolish. The Enterprise has had all kinds of weird shit happen to it encountering phenomenon that seemed harmless on scanners (energy barrier, anyone?), and yet a crewman who should know flies straight through an unusual phenomenon that appears to be only a few shiplengths across...and doesn't bother to tell the Captain. Kirk's "Deltans" line is also so out of character as to be embarrassing. Bones, maybe. Kirk, no.
Sulu comes across as having a very nonchalant (read: arrogant) attitude about the entire thing. More than that, he doesn't even order a course correction to avoid the phenomenon. His actions are merely a function of "because the writer needs the ship to enter the phenomenon so it move the plot along." The thing is that it is an easy script fix (see below to my response to boobatuba.)

While that bit did pique my writerly ire, it wasn't as egregious as Kirk's "Deltans" line. Kirk sees an obviously distraught crewmember and dimisses it so easily. Would he have done so in the original series? No. What's worse is the line and its delivery is no better than Kirk saying, "must be that time of the month," which is the exact tone this bit conveys.

Even out of Bones, as Maurice suggests, this line would still be off-putting. Certainly, Bones would stop Lt. Illa-substitute and ask her what's wrong, as he did for Uhura in "The Tholian Web."


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Well, yeah...there are always "fanplot" devices or there wouldn't be any interesting stories.
There are plenty of interesting stories that don't rely on the characters acting like idiots. Quite frankly, it's lazy writing to just have characters act because the writer needs them to (I'm looking at you JMS and you as well TNG writing staff). Hell, I'm guilty of it myself.

But this could've been an easy fix. Had Kirk been on the bridge or called to the bridge, he could've made the call. Kirk could've been given all the same information as Sulu, then deemed it wasn't too much of a risk, but thought it was interesting. After all, Kirk has a natural curiosity, so it wouldn't be out of character for him to order a pass-through. Thus, Kirk later causes the problem he must solve in the episode (Lt. Illa-substitute's child and the radiation sickness that follows — yes, I read the original PHASE:II script). Much like in WNMHGB, Kirk has created the very problem he has to fix. Now, that's much more dramatic than having the entire thing as happenstance.
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