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Old June 3 2012, 08:49 PM   #181
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Re: Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes season 2 discussion thread

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This is all Jeph Loeb. Yost and Fine were pushed out halfway through season two production because Loeb didn't like the serialized approach; and Loeb is the one who made the decision to re-dub Spidey's voice in what was Yost and Fine's final episode of EMH.

Loeb came in like an 800 pound gorilla and could really care less about what was popular or what anyone else was doing. A new Avengers show will be on air by fall 2013, and it's going to be just like Ultimate Spider-man (which is Loeb's baby).
Am I the only one getting the impression that he really doesn't care what the fans think of him or what he does to the stuff he's in control of now? Because that's certainly the impression these actions are giving.
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Old June 3 2012, 09:34 PM   #182
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Am I the only one getting the impression that he really doesn't care what the fans think of him or what he does to the stuff he's in control of now? Because that's certainly the impression these actions are giving.
Well, ideally, creators should take a story in whatever direction feels right to them, rather than just trying to satisfy what they think the fans expect. That's just creative integrity. After all, it's not like there's anything that all fans agree on in the first place, so any decision is going to please some fans and upset others.

That said, I haven't been particularly fond of Jeph Loeb's creative choices that I've been aware of. I think he was the showrunner of Heroes during its weaker seasons, where it was more focused on throwing in wild plot twist after wild plot twist and the characterization fell by the wayside.
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Old June 4 2012, 12:27 AM   #183
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The more powerful Jeph becomes, the less souless suits there are that can fire him, until he's like some sort of boy Emperor who thinks that he is a god.

Oh?

What comes after Boy Emperor who thinks that he is a god?
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Old June 4 2012, 12:31 AM   #184
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He's killed by his own bodyguards?
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Old June 4 2012, 01:33 AM   #185
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I don't believe it's unthinkable that Jeph needs an honour guard of ex-paramilitary psychopaths to protect his virtue at Comicon.
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Old June 4 2012, 01:33 AM   #186
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Jeph Loeb is one of those creators that are hit and miss, Superman for All Seasons is one of my favorite comics of all time, period. However, other titles he's written have not been as good. Some, such as what I've heard about his time on Ultimatum and The Ultimates have been not so good.

I was excited to see him working on Heroes and Lost. He also worked on Smallville.

I give him the benefit of the doubt, usually. There are some who view him as a "Midas in Reverse" thinking everything he touches turns to crap. I take each work of his on its own. I'll admit to liking Ultimate Spider-Man, but sometimes the show gets exasperating.
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Old June 4 2012, 04:32 AM   #187
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Does he have anything to do with the current Teen Wolf TV series? I noticed his name was in the credits, but when I just looked him up on Wikipedia it just said he wrote the original movie. So is that the only reason he's in the show's credits?
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