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View Poll Results: Rate Storming Heaven.
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Old April 2 2012, 10:11 AM   #76
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Old April 2 2012, 03:19 PM   #77
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^ I didn't get the impression it was a throw-back to anything or inspired by any particular event. I just thought it was an instance of facing death with bravery, self-sacrifice, and a sense of duty. The final battle was filled with them.
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Old April 2 2012, 05:58 PM   #78
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^ Correct. The scene in question wasn't inspired by any particular real-life event, just the idea of "We who are about to die salute you."
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Old April 2 2012, 08:24 PM   #79
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Fair enough. It was a great scene regardless.

Also, not for nothing, since I read it on Kindle, I hadn't gotten a really good look at the cover, but I was in Barnes & Noble yesterday getting the Song of Ice and Fire boxset as a present for my husband, and happened to see Storming Heaven on the shelf and....yowsah!
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Old April 2 2012, 08:47 PM   #80
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^ Yeah, that's pretty much how I felt when I first saw the cover art by Doug Drexler. He's the Man.
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Old April 2 2012, 10:55 PM   #81
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For my part, I thought this was an excellent finish to a strong storyline; for me at least, it held up much better as a finale than Rise Like Lions or To Brave the Storm did for their respective arcs.

I seriously hope that, even with Vanguard as a series having run its course, that there will be room in the future for more novels (or series) with new settings; with so much of the broader multiverse out there to explore, it would be unfortunate if the demands for more works based on the TV crews ended up pushing everything else out of the way.


That said, I can't help but feel a little put out by the way in which some of the TV cameos here were handled; I'm not saying they weren't entirely welcome, but it is a bother when they can at times seem to creep too close to the line of being shown in a better light than the crews these books were intended to showcase in the first place. But maybe that was me reading too much into things here and there.


If anything, the one issue I would personally have with the series is how some of the space combat is handled. Maybe it's the me more used to how things are handled in the Star Fleet Universe talking, but when you get used to stories (published by ADB) in which the mechanics behind how the ship-to-ship operations being shown in the plot are carefully laid out, it can be a bit hard to gauge things here; especially given that the shared heritage of the SFU and the Franchise is most prominent in the TOS era. Though I will admit that it's not necessarily a problem with the work itself, just with the way I find myself approaching it.


But, overall, I definitely enjoyed the book, and the series overall. Thanks to all of you on the BBS who have contributed to making it work, and good luck with whatever may come next time around!
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Old April 3 2012, 09:13 PM   #82
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David, do you know if Doug Drexler has been reading the series and is a fan of Vanguard? I know he is a giant Trek fan and has created a lot of the art for it, but it would be cool to know his thoughts of the series itself.

From what I gather from his blog, he is a busy man and probably doesn't have much reading time.

I would love for him to put some of his Vanguard covers into motion like he has done with some of his SOTL pictures.
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Old April 3 2012, 11:41 PM   #83
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^ To the best of my knowledge, Doug has not read the series. I can't blame him, though — he's one of the hardest-working digital artists in Hollywood.
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Great finale, and a wonderful read! I've written my review, and I really can't say enough.
Amazing writing, and a sad farewell to an amazing series that has been the highlight of my Trek Lit reading for the past couple of years.
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Old April 4 2012, 04:50 AM   #85
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^ Thanks for your linked review. I am flattered to hear how well the finale worked for you, and I am pleased that it lived up to (and in some respects exceeded) your expectations.
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Old April 4 2012, 10:06 AM   #86
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Those of you who read the official magazine during my tenure will know that I've supported this series (perhaps more than strict lack of partisanship would dictate) with assorted features over the years (the piece in the Starships and Space Stations Special [#35] was the core around which much of that issue was based). Now I don't have to be "correct" I can give it even more credit, as, to my mind, the best overall bit of Star Trek literature in the last few years.

My review of Storming Heaven is here. Enjoy!

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^ I really need to pick up a copy of that issue about ships and stations.
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Old April 4 2012, 03:36 PM   #88
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^ I really need to pick up a copy of that issue about ships and stations.
That, and the two Ultimate Guides, are the ones that I am so glad I got to do. I can *almost* not regret the other missed opportunities because I got to do those.
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Old April 4 2012, 10:29 PM   #89
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A few more random thoughts of mine on Storming Heaven:

I like how experimenting with Tkon crystals caused the explosion of Ceti Alpha VI that displaced Ceti Alpha V. Then Starfleet changed the star charts to cover it up. This made much more sense about why the Reliant crew had no clue that Khan was there.

I was glad that the info provided by the Apostate before he died was able to be relayed. After the end of Declassified, I was distraught that Quinn and Bridy’s final mission was all for naught. I remember thinking, “Great character development of Quinn but I just wasted a lot of time reading a plot thread that dead ends!”

When a Shedai gathering is detected, Theriault says, “I guess they got the band back together.” Loved the apparent Blues Brothers reference.

I’m not sure I like how the Constitution and Miranda class ships are referred to as warships. Yes Starfleet is a military organization for the most part but I never see Starfleet refer to their vessels as warships and rarely to themselves as soldiers. Also, have Starfleet ships been referred to as frigates either on screen or in literature before? Seems like I’ve only used this term used in battle-themed video games.
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I’d be curious to know from readers- Whose side would you be on in using the Tkon machine powered by the Shedai? Dr Marcus or the Starfleet admiralty?
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