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Old March 14 2012, 07:22 PM   #46
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Nothing on my end.
I guess we will know more once the DLC's come out.

One individual stated that the 'ending' we got is not a real one because Bioware wanted to prevent data mining (due to global release being on the 15th - tomorrow).
It's possible that they wanted to avoid premature spoilers until the game hit the shelves globally - plus, this would in fact be a ballsy move overall.

Plus, it doesn't make sense to end the game on this particular note when the rest of it was effectively 'epic'.
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Old March 14 2012, 07:29 PM   #47
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Ok I found this in regards to possible Truth 'DLC'


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Old March 14 2012, 07:30 PM   #48
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You guys know anything about this 'truth' possible DLC?

Other than what I already said? Not really. It's all just rumour at this point, there's been no official word, just a few cryptic tweets from one of the producers.

[EDIT] - Sorry, I really ought to refresh before I post! I think that is what I saw somewhere else.

On a different note, I've started a new playthrough with my renegade maleshep and I've already run into some very cool new things. First off, unlike ME2, if you let the council die back in ME1, you actually get to see the new council this time around! The Turian counsellor sounds older and less of a tool, while the Asari counsellor looks pretty much the same, but with a different voice and the Salarian counsellor is a female.

More surprising though is the Normandy's new doctor. Because this character is a full on renegade, when he spoke to Chakwas he insisted she stay in the labs and to my surprise, when I went over to talk with Dr. Michel from Garrus's ME1 recruitment mission you can recruit her instead! I assume this will also be an option if you let Chakwas die back on the collector base and I'm not sure if Dr. Michel presence is contingent on having completed the blackmail mission back in ME1, but it would make sense...if so I wonder what happens if both her and Chakwas are unavailable.
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Old March 14 2012, 07:49 PM   #49
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I like this human. He understands.

That Video is plain awesome.
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Old March 14 2012, 07:53 PM   #50
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Random observation: anyone else notice that the endgame room looks like the dialogue wheel? As in a circle leading to three paths; on blue passive approach, one red agressive and...the middle one?
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Old March 14 2012, 08:18 PM   #51
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Random observation: anyone else notice that the endgame room looks like the dialogue wheel? As in a circle leading to three paths; on blue passive approach, one red agressive and...the middle one?
yeah i was thinking the same thing. At the time I thought it was cool. Imagine my surprise when all three turn out to be the same thing
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Old March 14 2012, 08:50 PM   #52
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Old March 14 2012, 08:52 PM   #53
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I think the whole beta leak really threw a wrench into things
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Old March 14 2012, 09:28 PM   #54
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Seeing that image just made me realise something that's getting lost in all this. Regardless of all the controversy, Jennifer Hale's performance in those last scenes was nothing shot of phenomenal! Awesome would me more far accurate, but that term is oft misused. I don't know about anyone else but I was genuinely in awe and not from all the wiz-bang-crash, but from a few very quite, but very moving little character scenes. Grade-A solid acting Not just for a video game, but for acting in general. Oscar worth. Seriously.

The bit with Anderson (more on that later) and after when Hackett is calling her, you really feel that this is a person hanging on by her last fingernail and her only thought is what someone else needs her to do. Then when she asks "I need to stop the reapers. Do you know how I can do that?" there's an almost pleading tone that just ripped my heart out. All Shepard's fire and confidence is just spent and she's down to her last grain of hope.

I can't speak for Mark Meer as I've only just started a maleShep playthough, but I think I've already noticed a distinct improvement...or rather a conscious effort to move away from the- I don't want to say "monotone", because that's not fair or accurate, but there was always a certain "sameness" to his delivery in ME 1 & 2, especially when compared to Hale's. I already knew the guy had the chops and my preference for Hale was always just that; a personal preference. I won't be at all surprised if he brings his 'A' game too!
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Old March 14 2012, 10:29 PM   #55
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I haven't yet trialed FemShep on ME3, but I liked her enough on the first two. I'll have to keep an eye out as I have a FemShep game ready to go. MaleShep was effective enough during that scene - I felt so bad for him. Everything has gone to pot and he is trying so hard to get what he needs. Then I forget the rest...

I've finally restarted the game. It's been nearly three days since I finished it, but I couldn't just bring myself to do it back then as I felt very strange from it all. A combination of doing a lot of it in one run, it being so damn tense throughout, and of course the duff ending took it all out of me. By the time I finished at 5am (from 10am the day before ) I pretty much felt like Shepard. Maybe there's a possibilty that I was so sleep deprived that I hallucinated the end?

I've started my renegade runthrough. Can't wait to see what fresh hell I unleash on the galaxy in this one.
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Old March 14 2012, 11:09 PM   #56
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[...] take control of the cycle and show that (if you've made the right choices) organics and synthetics can co-exist [...]
Of course, then one is left wondering if controlling a synthetic race is in keeping with the spirit of co-existence. To me, it seems more akin to slavery - you haven't convinced the controlled synthetic race that it was wrong, that it and organics can co-exist peacefully; you've simply forced it into that position against its will. And what if that control doesn't last forever, but the Reapers down the line are able to regain their own "freedom" (in the sense of how they were programmed by the Catalyst, at least) and go on to restart the cycle again?

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More surprising though is the Normandy's new doctor.
By choosing Michel for the Normandy, you turned Chakwas into a War Asset too. I did the same on my current FemShep mostly-Renegade playthrough, and I'm curious to see if she and Garrus have any interaction together.

Particularly since Garrus and Tali seemed to be hooking up during my mostly-Paragon maleShep playthrough...
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Old March 14 2012, 11:54 PM   #57
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Seeing that image just made me realise something that's getting lost in all this. Regardless of all the controversy, Jennifer Hale's performance in those last scenes was nothing shot of phenomenal! Awesome would me more far accurate, but that term is oft misused. I don't know about anyone else but I was genuinely in awe and not from all the wiz-bang-crash, but from a few very quite, but very moving little character scenes. Grade-A solid acting Not just for a video game, but for acting in general. Oscar worth. Seriously.
Yeah, I was floored by Hale's performance as well. I would say it ranks up there with the best voice acting I've ever seen in a game. The ending scene wasn't her best bit in the game though

If you choose to kill Mordin and destroy the genophage cure you're treated what is probably the best acting in any gave I've ever played. You could actually feel Shepard's pain as she made her decision.
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Old March 15 2012, 02:07 AM   #58
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I haven't gotten to a FemShep playthrough yet, so I can't comment on Hale's work, but I thought Mark Meer did an absolutely fantastic job in ME3. He'd already improved in ME2, but the difference between his performance in ME3 and his performance in ME1 is like night and day.
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Old March 15 2012, 02:21 AM   #59
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Seeing that image just made me realise something that's getting lost in all this. Regardless of all the controversy, Jennifer Hale's performance in those last scenes was nothing shot of phenomenal! Awesome would me more far accurate, but that term is oft misused. I don't know about anyone else but I was genuinely in awe and not from all the wiz-bang-crash, but from a few very quite, but very moving little character scenes. Grade-A solid acting Not just for a video game, but for acting in general. Oscar worth. Seriously.
Yeah, I was floored by Hale's performance as well. I would say it ranks up there with the best voice acting I've ever seen in a game. The ending scene wasn't her best bit in the game though

If you choose to kill Mordin and destroy the genophage cure you're treated what is probably the best acting in any gave I've ever played. You could actually feel Shepard's pain as she made her decision.
^I didn't do that. I told Wrex straight up what the Salarian dalatrass suggested. Mordin then insists on sacrificing himself to make sure the cure is spread and you get treated to an encore performance of Gilbert & Sullivan. So it looks like either way, he's doomed.

Speaking of doomed characters, am I going crazy or was there some early footage that featured Thane in what looked like a side mission with some hanar scientists trying to cure his condition? Could it be a plot flag bug that prevents it from triggering, or did they just cut it out? It actually might explain why he just suddenly appears at the hospital whereas most of the other characters crop up in a side mission first.
Also might account for the conspicuously absence of the hanar this time around. The one I did spot only crops up when the Prothean visits the citadel. I don't think I saw any others at all...besides Blasto of course.

I think I like it better if they did drop the idea to cure Thane. It makes his appearances in the few scenes he's in so much more meaningful. Not just the assassin on assassin fight with Kai Leng (epic though it was) but his death scene at the hospital and the prayer for Shepard.

Actually, how did that scene go down for maleShep? In my femshep, she only catches that the prayer was for her because the last verse referred to a "she".
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Old March 15 2012, 02:42 AM   #60
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I don't know anything about the possibility that a side mission with Thane had been planned, but I can say that there is one hanar who plays a role in a side quest on the Citadel. Shepard even calls him a "big stupid jellyfish," because... well, because he was an enormous idiot who could have handed the hanar homeworld over to the Reapers without a fight.

As for Thane's prayer: maleShep asks Kolyat why Thane needed forgiveness / redemption (however it was defined, can't recall right now), thinking (if I recall the thought process correctly) that Thane had already earned it by helping to stop the Collectors and by stopping Kai Leng's assassination attempt. Kolyat then informs Shepard that the prayer was not for Thane's own soul, but rather for Shepard.
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