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Old March 19 2012, 06:20 PM   #151
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Re: Mass Effect 3 $$(ENDINGS SPOILERS)$$

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Apparently the Normandy was not using a mass relay.
That... makes no sense.
No, the Normandy was at FTL speeds, the "warp" they're at between systems in a star cluster or what they used to escape after the collector ship mission in me2.
Then why did they need to outrun the explosion? They weren't in realspace where the explosion was occurring, they weren't in transit where the player's chosen effect was being propagated...
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Old March 19 2012, 06:32 PM   #152
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Repost? From the ME facebook page:

We are aware that there are concerns about a recent post from this account regarding the ending of the game. In this post it was stated that at this time we do not have plans to change the ending.

We would like to clarify that we are actively and seriously taking all player feedback into consideration and have ruled nothing out. At this time we are still collecting and considering your feedback and have not made a decision regarding requests to change the ending.

Your feedback and opinions are of the utmost importance to us. We apologize for any confusion this has caused. Our top priority regarding this discussion is to keep communication with you, our loyal fans, open and productive.
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Old March 19 2012, 07:58 PM   #153
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That... makes no sense.
No, the Normandy was at FTL speeds, the "warp" they're at between systems in a star cluster or what they used to escape after the collector ship mission in me2.
Then why did they need to outrun the explosion? They weren't in realspace where the explosion was occurring, they weren't in transit where the player's chosen effect was being propagated...
That's true, it still doesn't make a lot of sense, but LeadHead is right. The Normandy couldn't have been in transit between mass relays, which occurs near-instantaneously. The closest thing that kind of makes sense is that they were traveling via conventional FTL. It still doesn't explain why they had to outrun the explosion, but...
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Old March 19 2012, 08:36 PM   #154
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Amazon is allowing people who bought ME 3 from them to be able to send the game back for a full refund, even if the game was opened!

http://igogaming.net/2012/03/19/fans...-full-refunds/
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Old March 19 2012, 09:28 PM   #155
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Repost? From the ME facebook page:

We are aware that there are concerns about a recent post from this account regarding the ending of the game. In this post it was stated that at this time we do not have plans to change the ending.

We would like to clarify that we are actively and seriously taking all player feedback into consideration and have ruled nothing out. At this time we are still collecting and considering your feedback and have not made a decision regarding requests to change the ending.

Your feedback and opinions are of the utmost importance to us. We apologize for any confusion this has caused. Our top priority regarding this discussion is to keep communication with you, our loyal fans, open and productive.
I wouldn't read too much into that. It's early days yet and I'm sure the public relations people are having a hell of a time keeping up with complaints. Who knows what the producers are really considering at this point.

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No, the Normandy was at FTL speeds, the "warp" they're at between systems in a star cluster or what they used to escape after the collector ship mission in me2.
Then why did they need to outrun the explosion? They weren't in realspace where the explosion was occurring, they weren't in transit where the player's chosen effect was being propagated...
That's true, it still doesn't make a lot of sense, but LeadHead is right. The Normandy couldn't have been in transit between mass relays, which occurs near-instantaneously. The closest thing that kind of makes sense is that they were traveling via conventional FTL. It still doesn't explain why they had to outrun the explosion, but...
Yeah, that explanation only makes sense as to where the Normandy was at that point. It does nothing to explain why it was running away or how everyone bar Shepard ended up onboard...or for that matter how the ship made it to a garden world. I mean you'd think being caught in a blast wave at FTL (think about that for a second) and having the engines explode mid-flight would rip the ship apart. Even so, I'm amazed enough of it was left to make a soft landing at all. Hell, for all we know the whole fleet jumped away and Hackett's ship crashed in the next valley over.

So yeah, it don't explain diddley.
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Old March 19 2012, 11:09 PM   #156
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Re: Mass Effect 3 $$(ENDINGS SPOILERS)$$

I just finished ME3 about an hour ago and thought I'd chime in and basically agree with most of what's been said here.

My Mass Effect experience may have been somewhat unique in that I've played all three games for the first time back to back to back over the last six weeks... buying the first two in anticipation of ME3's release. Being able to transfer my character through the whole trilogy was an great feature. 99 of the 100 hours I played were pretty awesome... so sad to see the end of a great trilogy phoned in like it was.
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Old March 20 2012, 02:37 AM   #157
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Casey Hudson is speaking about DLC that will continue the game past the ending. Broken Steel redux?

Along with the refunds from Amazon, Microsoft is having a sale on video games, and is offering Mass Effect 3 for $40.
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Old March 20 2012, 03:13 AM   #158
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Very detailed read with everything about the endings, long but good read

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...ilebasic?pli=1
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Old March 20 2012, 10:47 PM   #159
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Just saw this on Yahoo News, made me a little mad since they're calling the people upset about the endings a "Small, vocal percentage." Everything I've seen makes it appear that the ratio is at least 80/20 towards the endings being bad.

Good to know Yahoo News shouldn't be trusted for accurate information, they can go hang out with Fox News.

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Now, i don't think that a federal case needs to be made out of this, but I don't agree with the perception that those who believe the endings are terrible are just cranky. Given how up til the last 10 minutes of the game, BioWare was pulling a A to A- average among fans, then sank to an F-, is it so wrong to be vocal about that crash?
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Old March 20 2012, 11:09 PM   #160
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In my experience, Yahoo news articles like this tend to be poorly researched opinion pieces. Basically internet tabloid stuff, not something anyone with half a brain would take seriously.

On the other hand, if you take the apparantly tens of thousands of complaints about the game's ending, it's still a fairly small number compared to the total number of units sold (from what I can tell, something in the order of two and a half million in the States, plus three and a half worldwide as of a week ago.) Add to that the statistic they came up with for ME2 that shows most people who bought the game never actually finished it and you can sort of see where they're coming from. In short, there's a difference between fan base and customer base.
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Old March 20 2012, 11:37 PM   #161
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On the other hand, if you take the apparantly tens of thousands of complaints about the game's ending, it's still a fairly small number compared to the total number of units sold (from what I can tell, something in the order of two and a half million in the States, plus three and a half worldwide as of a week ago.)
That, and you also need to consider selection bias. People who are happy won't go online to complain!
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Old March 21 2012, 02:35 AM   #162
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“@DamonLindelof: No folks, I did NOT consult on the ending for MASS EFFECT 3. *#Sheesh”

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Old March 21 2012, 04:27 AM   #163
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I don't know, I got more of a Ron Moore vibe from the ending.


The story even made BBC News' front page, at one point I noticed it was one of their most read stories of the day. Sadly, they described the backlash as fans being opposed to the "bleak" ending rather than the various complaints about the lack of consequences, plot holes, logical and thematic inconsistencies, lack of closure, and general hokeyness.
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Old March 21 2012, 12:15 PM   #164
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BBC reporting it makes it more real! I saw that yesterday and found it a typically vague look at the problem, which is unfortunately the case with a lot of media outlets. It's only a game afterall. Hmm.

I've found now I'm back at work and also getting ready to move house that my attention from the negativity has shifted somewhat. Which is good really, the game was like 99% excellent. And I can't cope with clinging onto the negativity whilst having other stresses eating at me.

I guess I've been indoctrinated.
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Old March 21 2012, 12:48 PM   #165
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BBC reporting it makes it more real! I saw that yesterday and found it a typically vague look at the problem, which is unfortunately the case with a lot of media outlets. It's only a game afterall. Hmm.

I've found now I'm back at work and also getting ready to move house that my attention from the negativity has shifted somewhat. Which is good really, the game was like 99% excellent. And I can't cope with clinging onto the negativity whilst having other stresses eating at me.

I guess I've been indoctrinated.
No.. you've just returned to real life and realized it's just a game
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