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Old March 15 2012, 12:21 AM   #1
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HBO cancels "Luck"

...due to concern for the safety of horses.

HBO said:
“It is with heartbreak that executive producers David Milch and Michael Mann together with HBO have decided to cease all future production on the series Luck. Safety is always of paramount concern. We maintained the highest safety standards throughout production, higher in fact than any protocols existing in horseracing anywhere with many fewer incidents than occur in racing or than befall horses normally in barns at night or pastures. While we maintained the highest safety standards possible, accidents unfortunately happen and it is impossible to guarantee they won’t in the future. Accordingly, we have reached this difficult decision. We are immensely proud of this series, the writing, the acting, the filmmaking, the celebration of the culture of horses, and everyone involved in its creation.”
http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/03/14/hbo-cancels-luck/



While it obviously sucks for the production crew and everyone working on the show, as well as its fans, it's good that they're taking the health and treatment of the horses so seriously.

That said, I wonder if there wasn't some other avenue to preserve the safety of the horses that didn't involve ending the series?
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Old March 15 2012, 12:43 AM   #2
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Re: HBO cancels "Luck"

Just heard about this. I'm kinda shocked. THREE horses were injured badly enough to be put down? Wow. Kinda shocking actually. Imagine if a show lost three ACTORS to accidents in two seasons...

Well... now I don't feel the need to catch up.
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Old March 15 2012, 12:50 AM   #3
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Re: HBO cancels "Luck"

Though completely understandable (if this was the sole reason, sans other politics), it is sad to see my favourite new show of the season go under such circumstances.

As a person who is unequivocally NOT a fan of horses (freak me the fuck out, man) I was completely entrenched in this show, the lives of the characters and the building menace surrounding Ace's story.

One can only hope that there is some semblance of closure, but knowing Milch this is unlikely and we'll have another Deadwood and John From Cincinatti where all is left up in the air.

Still, wonderful show, and a reminder that Milch is one of the most complex and rich writers out there who shows no desire to spoonfeed or coddle his audience. Takes balls, that.


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Old March 15 2012, 01:13 AM   #4
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It would be expensive, but did the creators consider using CGI for the horses, as TRUE GRIT'S remake did? Who'd've thought Dustin Hoffman's first TV series would be cancelled so swiftly?
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Old March 15 2012, 01:13 AM   #5
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Re: HBO cancels "Luck"

Many seem to be speculating that HBO is just seizing on this as an excuse to pull the plug on the show, due to declining viewership numbers.

They renewed it for season 2 early (perhaps too early), and now they see their chance to save face for everyone involved.
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Old March 15 2012, 01:35 AM   #6
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^ That, and maybe PETA privately threatened an all-out PR assault if the show continued.

A pity, indeed.
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Old March 15 2012, 01:46 AM   #7
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I'm surprised HBO just cancelled the show, rather than trying to find some sort of compromise. It's collected a lot of talent and critical acclaim.

I was looking forward to seeing the series eventually, but if it's going to end like this, I'm not sure I'll bother.
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Old March 15 2012, 01:47 AM   #8
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Re: HBO cancels "Luck"

I found the first episode painfully difficult to get through.

I believe that this excuse is more convenient than paramount.
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Old March 15 2012, 01:47 AM   #9
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So why did the horses keep dying? Were they kicking the horses to death the moment they were being brought on set?
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Old March 15 2012, 01:49 AM   #10
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Exactly.

They thought that they could treat the horses like extras.
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Old March 15 2012, 02:31 AM   #11
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I do have to wonder how hard it is to not kill a horse.
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Old March 15 2012, 02:42 AM   #12
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Re: HBO cancels "Luck"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17364029

It appears in this instance the horse in question was not on the set but rather on its way to the stalls when it reared, lots balance, and fell striking its head on the ground.

The previous two horses were injured during the filming of season one, and following those two incidents the AHA had called for the show to be stopped, so clearly the show, its producers and HBO were under some significant pressure to halt filming for some time, and sadly this incident has brought about the shows end.

A great pity, for all involved, animals included.


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Old March 15 2012, 02:45 AM   #13
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How much more would it cost to use cgi horses?

Gunsmoke was on the air for 20 years, Bonanza almost the same...

I bet they lost a LOT of horses.
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Old March 15 2012, 02:46 AM   #14
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Three horses does seem like a lot. It is a lot, right? Do modern day westerns lose that many?
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Old March 15 2012, 02:58 AM   #15
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Many?

With modern standards, hey shouldn't lose any or their show gets shut down.

if they were really worried about their show getting shut down then they should have had higher standards.

Something tells me that the next show with horses in it will.
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