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Old March 21 2012, 09:08 AM   #31
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I would like to ask both Chris and Dave, how the find the experience of killing off a major character? Does it come easy? Or is it a difficult task? Does it slow down the pace of your writing as you detail the event? Have you ever regretted doing it?

IMHO, the deaths in Vanguard have been justified and made sense to the progression of the story. Some have been a surprise, while others were a matter of time. I don't fixate on them, but I do enjoy a good fight/battle scene with real life/death consequences.
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Old March 21 2012, 04:24 PM   #32
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I would like to ask both Chris and Dave, how the find the experience of killing off a major character? Does it come easy? Or is it a difficult task? Does it slow down the pace of your writing as you deatail the event? Have you ever regretted doing it?
Who, me? What major character have I killed off? There was Leybenzon in Greater Than the Sum, but I'm not sure he was around long enough to count as "major." And there was a certain original character I created in Watching the Clock who was pretty major within that book, but not beyond.

I've sometimes had to kill off major characters in my original fiction, and it can be very painful. A couple of times I've cried for half an hour after I did it. But it was what the story needed. But I haven't yet had that experience in Trek Lit. Leybenzon wasn't a character I really connected with, and getting rid of him was an editorial mandate, so I didn't really feel it as much as those others. And the DTI character's demise was offscreen, so it wasn't as direct and hard-hitting.
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Old March 21 2012, 08:21 PM   #33
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I would like to ask both Chris and Dave, how the find the experience of killing off a major character? Does it come easy? Or is it a difficult task? Does it slow down the pace of your writing as you detail the event? Have you ever regretted doing it?
If you mean a major canon character, I haven't iced any of them … yet.

If you mean a major character within his or her series, such as…
…then those are moments I take very seriously. I try to craft them in ways that capture what I think reflects each character's intrinsic nature, as it pertains to facing the moment of his/her own oblivion.

However, I find such scenes no more difficult, nor any easier, to write than any others, and I don't regret any of the creative decisions I've made regarding which characters to usher into the final darkness.
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Old March 21 2012, 09:25 PM   #34
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^I was refering to killing off of any major character in your own series/books. I imagined it may not be the easiest decision for a writer to grapple with. I appreciate the insight you both have shared.
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Old March 21 2012, 09:34 PM   #35
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By the way I love the cover art by Doug Drexler. It looks awesome I'm using it as my desktop backround Having the book downloaded to my black and white kindle, does the cover art a great injustice.

How much input do you have in the cover art Dave? Does Doug get an advanced read to help him decide what look to devlop? Who has the final say, you or an editor?
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Old March 21 2012, 09:50 PM   #36
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The editors sometimes have solicited ideas or suggestions from myself, Dayton, and Kevin (and also Marco on the Declassified anthology).

The editors have passed along some of those ideas to Doug Drexler, who then developed the art, with some notes from the editors on the early concept images. Usually by the time we writers have seen the finished cover art, they have been "done deals".

In the case of the cover for Reap the Whirlwind, it was inspired by a scene from the book that I thought would be a good showcase for the previously unseen Archer class of starship. I thought it would be a space scene, but the art arrived as a blue-sky image complete with a fire trail from the Sagittarius's warp nacelle. I was so taken by the art that I actually rewrote the scene in question to match the cover art.
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Old March 22 2012, 04:25 AM   #37
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^ Thanks for the skinny on how the cover art is decided upon. That is the second time you have been inspired by a picture. The Destiny article, related a similar story of how a picture of the NX-02 lead to that trilogy. Very cool indeed.

Any word on the Podcast you are planing?
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Old March 22 2012, 05:45 AM   #38
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^ The recording date is scheduled for April 1; a bit later than I wanted, but that was the first day that all us Vanguardians were available.
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Old March 22 2012, 12:29 PM   #39
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^Not sure if I should believe you, as that is April fools Day I hope they are not putting you on either
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Old March 22 2012, 06:17 PM   #40
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I would like to ask both Chris and Dave, how the find the experience of killing off a major character?
Thinking back to Fallen Heroes, I think Dafydd ab Hugh's answer to that question would be a broad grin.

(Gee, this is a scary thread to navigate for someone who's just about to finish Summon the Thunder.)
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Old March 22 2012, 11:47 PM   #41
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Just got the next-to-last book, which I'll finish tonight.

Waiting for the last one. I guess it releases on Tuesday.
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Old March 23 2012, 03:06 AM   #42
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I just got the book (my Barnes and Noble got it early I guess). I'll probably start reading it tonight.
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Old March 23 2012, 03:50 AM   #43
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^ Enjoy!
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Old March 24 2012, 01:02 AM   #44
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Just finished the next-to-last book (7 books in one week.)

Finally, I'm ready to read the finale. In a perfect world, it would arrive in tomorrow's mail. In the real world, it'll arrive on a busy Tuesday.

I've really enjoyed the series, although if I had to give a one-word description of the series I would say, "bittersweet."

Without having read the last book, I have to say that the arrogance of the Shedai (not sure if I spelled that right and too lazy to go and look it up) is getting on my nerves. "Born to rule" my ass.
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Old March 24 2012, 02:16 AM   #45
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^ Well, the Shedai Apostate agrees with you on that point...
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