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Old August 7 2012, 02:01 PM   #76
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"Smallville" of course had Metropolis in Kansas

Anyway...has anyone finished reading the book, or even bought it? I am just about to start it finally.
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Old August 7 2012, 04:16 PM   #77
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"Smallville" of course had Metropolis in Kansas
Yeah, it was cool the way they moved the Atlantic coast inland 1,500 miles.
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Old August 7 2012, 04:22 PM   #78
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"Smallville" of course had Metropolis in Kansas
Yeah, it was cool the way they moved the Atlantic coast inland 1,500 miles.
Did we ever see the ocean? I remember that Smallville's "Metropolis" had a waterfront, but I always rationalized that there was a major river running through the city . . . .

(The occasional glimpse of pine forests were a little harder to explain away!)
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Old August 7 2012, 04:28 PM   #79
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Not to mention the majestic mountains of Kansas...

(Kansas does have some small mountains, but nothing like the ones in Smallville).
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Old August 7 2012, 04:53 PM   #80
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Not to mention the majestic mountains of Kansas...
Yes, Erica Durance does indeed have a magnificent chest.
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Old August 7 2012, 05:09 PM   #81
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Hey, nothing will ever top those majestic views of the Cascade Mountains in Rumble in the Bronx . . . .
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Old August 7 2012, 05:23 PM   #82
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What do you as an author of the novelization do when you stumble across a glaring inconsistency in a film script? Do you have to ask for permission before you try to explain it?
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Old August 7 2012, 06:55 PM   #83
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What do you as an author of the novelization do when you stumble across a glaring inconsistency in a film script? Do you have to ask for permission before you try to explain it?
In general, it depends. I'm not going to make any radical changes to the plot, but, depending on how glaring it is, I may try to rationalize it a bit.

That sounds vague, but, honestly, it's a judgment call. You don't want to put so much effort into explaining it away that you call attention to the plot hole or whatever, but if you can discreetly put a bandaid over it . . . .

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Old August 7 2012, 07:07 PM   #84
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You don't want to put so much effort into explaining it away that you call attention to the plot hole or whatever
Ha! I was yesterday reading the Broken Bow novelization by Diane Carey, and this exactly describes it. She goes out of the way to explain things that don't really need it and it actually makes the problem worse. An example is when T'Pol is talking to Trip and says the comment about the sensors being less sophisticated than the ones played with by Vulcan children. She adds in a line about Trip thinking "Why did she say that? We both know Vulcan children don't play with sophisticated sensors" or something like that. There were a number of places in the book this took me out. I realize she didn't have much to work with in that script, but drawing attention to all the weaknesses just makes them more obvious instead of fixing them.
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Old August 10 2012, 01:03 AM   #85
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I've had the idea that Metropolis is an alternate version of Toronto. Where there was a history in which the north eastern border of the US was different. So that the southern part of Ontario, which is sorounded by the Great Lakes, was a state in the Union.
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Old August 10 2012, 03:02 AM   #86
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Now, my brain's thrown completely off-track.

Smallville's Metropolis being in Kansas, I can wrap my brain around. Somewhat.

Gotham's map being changed twice for the purposes of Mr. Nolan's movies, likewise. (Although the newest version's street names put me far more in mind of Opal City as presented by James Robinson in his Starman run. Garamond and Egypt? Oahu and Crystal?)

But the "great state of Ontario"???
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Old August 10 2012, 05:27 AM   #87
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It in this alternate history it would not be called Ontario! It would only be part of what we call Ontario anyways. If there could be names like Metropolis and Gotham City why not fictional states. There where attempts for different states than we have now.

Original Superman artist Joe Shuter was born in Toronto.
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Old August 12 2012, 04:11 PM   #88
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Hey, nothing will ever top those majestic views of the Cascade Mountains in Rumble in the Bronx . . . .
It was due to those mountains that the Bronx was rumbling.
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Old August 12 2012, 06:13 PM   #89
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"Smallville" of course had Metropolis in Kansas
Yeah, it was cool the way they moved the Atlantic coast inland 1,500 miles.
Did we ever see the ocean? I remember that Smallville's "Metropolis" had a waterfront, but I always rationalized that there was a major river running through the city . . . .

(The occasional glimpse of pine forests were a little harder to explain away!)
The forthcoming Man of Steel seems to have turned Smallville into a small seaside town.
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Old August 12 2012, 06:37 PM   #90
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Do we know that's Smallville? I thought I read somewhere that he had already left home by the time he was out on the fishing boat.
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